Guardian Masks and Uveitis??

My sweet POA mare was diagnosed with Uveitis and a Cataract in her right eye at Tuft’s this week. :frowning:

I’ve been trail riding all spring and would have never had known if it wasn’t for my local Vet checking during our spring shots.

So we trucked her up to Tuft’s where the Ophthalmologist confirmed it.

I did some searching on COTH and read great reviews on the Guardian Masks.

Called the company this morning to order and spoke with the owner, who really gave me confidence in the mask.

He said that once many horses start wearing these, it is rare for another flare up? And it also keeps the Uveitis from affecting the good eye?

My biggest fear is it affecting the other eye and having a 10 yr old blind horse.

Is what he told me really true? Reduces or eliminates another flare up and keeps the “good” eye from being affected?

Opinions? Thank you.

He sells the masks. Never trust someone who wants to sell you something. While these masks are great at blocking light and anyone with an ERU horse should own at least one, they will not prevent a flareup nor halt the progression of the disease. Believe me I wish they did.

And while your horse may have cataracts, I’m skeptical he has ERU if you’ve never noticed any other symptoms.

We have a 10 YO Appy that is almost blind in the right eye and has early changes in the left. She is certainly happier (eyes less puffy and less tearing) since I started putting the mask on her daily. The UV thing is a long term issue, so cutting down on UV rays can’t be a bad thing…but for the immediate moment I think just cutting down on the glare in the eye (like humans with glaucoma need to wear dark sunglasses for the glare discomfort) with horse “shades” also helps.
Sadly if ya have the Appy based genetic “moon blindness” (uveitis) I don’t think you can really prevent it from affecting the other eye eventually. You can probably slow it down and keep the horse more comfortable though. The mask will not prevent flareups or keep the good eye from being affected. It WILL make the horse more comfortable, so still worth purchasing.

my TB mare had an injury that was overmedicated stripping her immune system permitting leptosposrsis which resulted in blindness from which one eye recovered. She has floaters or something that starts in warm weather and causes severe head shaking and striking. The guardien mask is a good sell but too big for her narrow face and she hates it. According to my vet step-son, any mask will do and I find that true. Uveittis is not stopable with a mask.

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According to my vet step-son, any mask will do and I find that true. Uveittis is not stopable with a mask.[/QUOTE]

I don’t doubt that any mask will help, but if glare and UV rays are exacerbating the problem, I can’t help but think that a mask that’s designed and proven to cut out 95% of the UV rays is going to do a better job at helping than something that’s just designed to keep flies out of a beastie’s eyes.

I have to disagree with rcloisonne. My experience with the masks has been that they DO help lessen the frequency of flareups :yes:

I cared for a mare with ERU who wore her mask 24/7 in the pasture. She had shade and shelter also, but once she began to wear the mask I’d estimate she only had one, maybe two, flareups a year (down from evry other month or so) and during the five years she lived with ERU I never saw evidence of a flareup in the ‘unaffected’ eye.

I started the mare on daily aspirin a few months after getting the first mask, and I like to think that helped too.

Good luck!

The guardian mask was alful on my mare it shifted on her. I use cashel masks. When my mare had her flare up I would use black duct tape and put on mask on the effected side worked really well. Never had to use aspirin. I use masks 365 days a yr now.

My horse has U and since getting the mask has not had one flare-up. They are also a great mask to have in your horse first aid kit for eye injuries. :cool: I now have 3.

No what he told you is not true.

However, fly masks are designed to prevent bugs from swarming around eyes.

The guardianmask is designed to prevent UV rays from affecting the damaged eye. (And rain is supposed to bother ERU eyes as does sunlight).
Consult your vet and join the yahoo group that others have threads on.
A pony at a previous barn had ERU and he had the guardinamask which did help his eyes, but also rubbed the skin around them. Perhaps a felt lining would help around that area?

I bought a Guardian mask for another condition (headshaker). My biggest complaint was that the mask seemed to block some of her peripheral vision and she was super jumpy with it on. For whatever reason, she seems to prefer a regular flymask.

Honestly, I didn’t think it is worth the $100 - the eye “cups” on mine were dented within a day of wear- but possibly my horse was harder on the mask than yours would be. However, for management of uveitis, it may be more valuable. And if it would’ve cured my mare’s headshaking, I’d probably have bought stock in the company!

Best of luck to you and your horse!

My horse has uveitis in one eye and lives outside 24/7 - I use the guardian mask every time he has a flare up - i can even put him out with atropoine in - they work that well…i use a standard farnam mask the other times as he is pretty hard on his masks and the guardian masks are a little pricey - but sooooo worth it - when you call company they can semi-custom make your mask for a better fit -

my sweet ol’ guy had the guardian mask and was definately more comfortable havin’ it…the cups helped protect his eyes from being rubbed too…go for it and give your poor baby all the comfort available

It is most imperative that you protect the eye from sun, wind, dust, debris and insects. The Guardian Mask is designed for this and while more expensive than a fly mask it is infinitely more effective in preventing additional flare ups when used religiously and protects the eye well during an acute stage. They are about $90 but they last a long time even if they don’t remain cosmetically pretty (eye cups will get dented on the sides, etc.) They are handmade by seamstresses in the U.S. and sturdy. I’ve got Guardian Masks that are about 4 years old and still in use. I’ve never had a Cashel Crusader or other mask last that long.

It is also absolutely necessary to use the Guardian Mask when you have used atropine. Because atropine relaxes the pupil the horse cannot constrict the pupil when light is introduced and therefore cannot self regulate how much light/sun is entering the eye. This is painful and is damaging to the retina. I prefer not to turn out a horse that has had atropine in the last 3-5 days and I will leave the Guardian Mask on his/her face during the day if stalled and we have an active flare up. My horses appreciate it because they can move around freely in the stall instead of confining themselves to the darkest corner of the stall.

The worst part of ERU is that it can be active without obvious outward appearances so even if the eye seems better quite quickly that does not mean it is not still in an active phase of ERU. I think this is particularly true of Appaloosas. It can be brewing under the surface at any time without signs. This is why it is important to protect the eye at all times and watch closely for even the slightest indication of a problem. This might include squinting even a bit, a bit of eye goop, swelling, slight cloudiness in the pupil, and inability of the pupil to constrict when exposed to light when atropine has not been administered for some time. The way you test for this is take the horse in a dark stall. The pupil should open wide to allow more light in so the horse can see. Shine a flashlight to the eye and see if the pupil constricts as it should and at the same speed as the normal eye. If both eyes are effected I would compare with a horse that has healthy eyes so you can see how long it takes.

I have three horses with ERU, two of which already had it when they came to me. The other was predisposed as he is a homozygous appaloosa with little pigment around the eye. Using the Guardian Mask I have been able to reduce the number of flare ups. One mare went 4 years before having a flare up. Her flare ups have always been with obvious symptoms. We caught it fast it was quickly taken care of.

If your horse is stalled you need to protect his eyes from dust, etc. indoors. Be cautious of dusty shavings and put his hay at floor level so dust from his hay is less likely to fall into his eyes. If we are cleaning stalls or dust is stirred up in the barn while any of the ERU horses are in there I put the Guardian Mask on them until the dust settles.

Some horses have flare ups when dewormed or vaccinated and there is a recommendation to administer banamine beforehand to help prevent flare ups. I’ve not had this problem so I cannot tell you the specifics of how much or when. Again, I think the ERU effecting many appaloosas tends to be different.

Other things off the top of my head are MSM given orally helps with inflammation. I keep mine on MSM daily but have only been doing that for about 3 months. Also be careful not to give too many Omega 6’s which can promote inflammation. In moderation Omega 6’s are good and Omega 3’s are very important. Some foodstuffs are imbalanced in Omega 6’s such a rice bran.

While I like the Cashel Crusader and have a few horses wearing them I wouldn’t rely on that mask or any “fly mask” to protect a horse with ERU…or to prevent ERU for that matter. Remember the 3rd horse with ERU that didn’t have it when I got him? Well, I used the Cashel on him religiously from the time I got him as a yearling and he still did develop ERU. I used that one on him because it stayed on his stallion face better at the time. For whatever reason he keeps the Guardian Mask on fine now.

The Guardian Mask relieves discomfort. My ERU horses lower their heads and wait for the mask to be put on, often sighing. I rarely have them lose one in the pasture but when it happens they usually stand there like “Crap, now what do I do?!” They wait for me to put their mask back on, give a big sigh of relief and then go about their business.

As I said, the mask is very sturdy. A drawback for some horses is that it can irritate their skin if they have a very fine summer haircoat. Two of mine can wear it with no problems, winter and summer. The other horse has a summer coat so thin that you can see her skin and she does get rubs on one part of her face (a dime-sized spot on either side of her nose). You can use mole skin to cushion the mask in any area that might get irritated.

I don’t believe that all ERU is alike in all horses, in both cause and symptoms. Appaloosas with any pink or unpigmented skin around the eyes are definitely more sensitive to the sun. It is thought that the constant onslaught of irritants (sun, dust, wind, insects, etc) on pink eyes could trigger the immune system in such a way as to initiate ERU. They recently have concluded that there is not a positive correlation between leptospirosis and ERU. Perhaps it does cause some cases of ERU but not all or most cases. Some would be caused by injury, some due to immune system triggers and who knows what else. What one person experiences with their ERU horses is not the same for all.

Thanks everyone! :slight_smile:

I did order a mask and the nose covering yesterday.

I highly doubt any fly mask helps with Uveitis as I have had the mask on her since winter, because we had constant snow and I was trying to keep the glare to a minimum. (She is light skinned)

At this stage I’ll try anything to ward off another attack or prevent further damage. She just turned 10 and is the best trail pony. We go out about 4 times a week.

I also ordered MSM and Grape seed extract to her Smartpak. Hopefully an anti-inflammatory and Anti-Oxidants will help some.

Does anyone ride with theirs on also? The owner told me I could and noticed a few pictures on the website with people riding in them.

I definitely plan on keeping it on her 24/7.

Thanks again - And I’m sure I’ll have more questions…:slight_smile:

Oh heck yes, we ride 'em!
I ride my totally blind appy mare. She loves trails :yes:
Of course, all beasties are different… You’ll just have to see how your girl is now that you know what you’re dealing with. I suspect that since she’s been dealing with vision changes for a while before you realized it, she’ll do okay.

OK Beastie, I put her guardian mask back on today and added a bit of asperin and ony a touch of HA and 5cc of Flunixon. Maybe she can show as breeding for babies is nice but not in this economy. It does make sense that the guardien cups being denser on the affected eye should cut glare and irritation. I sure hope so as I dearly love this mare.

In addition to the MSM and grapeseed you might want to consider ground flax seed which is supposed to be anti-inflammatory. There is a study mentioned on the EquineUveitis Yahoo group that they have found a correlation between selenium and zinc deficiency in humans. Whether this Se/Zinc deficiency contributes to uveitis or uveitis contributes to Se/Zinc deficiency is unknown as well as if this would translate to horses. Something to consider. Here is the link to that article. http://www.springerlink.com/content/37874716631m7lp5/

I knew I was forgetting one more… How much ground flax seed would you feed?

http://www.smartpakequine.com/charts/skinandcoatsuppcompare.html

The Smartpak chart is kind of confusing as it lists Omega 6s as well, which is an Inflammatory - correct?

This is all so new to me, but which SmartPak (Flax) supplement would be best?

Or would this be something I would be better off buying at a health food store?

You’ll pay out through the nose if you buy it as a health food store. Buy from Horsetech directly or from Getty Nutrition and get free shipping. I buy by the 40 lb. bag for about $64 and it is good for 6 months although we use it up much faster. You can buy in smaller quantities too. You can give 2 - 6 or 8 oz per day (can’t remember). I give mine about 2 for smaller horses and 4 for large horses or those with ERU. If they need more benefit you might give a little more. One of my two year olds had a dry itchy coat and I’ve given him about 4 oz. per day. He is so slick it looks like someone wiped him down with oil. And no more itchies.

Yes, too much Omega 6 is pro-inflammatory and you generally want more Omega 3s than 6s. This is why flax seed is such a good option.

Some of those flax seed based supplements have a lot of other stuff in them that you don’t need and then not enough of a good stuff. That is why I recommend just getting plain ground flax (stabilized or whatever the correct terminology is for flax).

http://www.horsetech.com/nutra-flax.htm

Sorry to be such a pest, but I assume this is the one that you buy?

Thank you for all your help.

Yes, that’s the stuff.