half sister to Hansen by Frankel

[gumtree]

http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/Nov16/pdfs/316.pdf

There are those that criticize TB breeders for throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. That we over breed, breed mares that shouldn’t be bred based on their race record and or lack of pedigree to warrant the exercise.

By and large I don’t entirely disagree having seen and still see mares bred that make me think why would someone breed ‘this mare’ and then complain they lost money in the process.

The dam of Hansen certainly would have had my fellow agents scratching our heads if he had been offered at auction as a yearling. At the end of a sales day when a bunch of us would gather for cocktails we would ‘nominate’ hip numbers for the best Blank Page award, aka The WTF were they thinking award.

Certainly Hansen’s dam would have qualified and most likely would have won that sales day Blank Page award. Tapit’s fee when bred was a reasonable $12,500. But considering Stormy Sunday was maybe worth $1,000 as a broodmare if a buyer could have been found. It is safe to say that she certainly didn’t justify a $12,500 stud fee.

The rule of thumb for many years when deciding on how much of a stud fee a breeder should invest, was the mare should be worth 5 times the stud fee. That went out the window in the late 70s early 80s when the “commercial” yearling market took off.

It will be interesting to see in years to come if Stormy Sunday’s pedigree blossoms. Or she and Hansen was were just a fluke, a one off, an exception to the rule.

[SPRINGBORO]

that’s a light page, indeed. Where in the world did Hansen’s talent come from? And whoever would have paid $12,500 to breed THIS mare?

[KentuckyFilly79]

I was kinda amazed at some of the ‘blank pages’ that made it into Book 1 KEESept this year… Gumtree, I wouldn’t mind attending one of those little post-sales cocktail parties

[gotpaints]

Even with Hansen, I’m a little surprised Stormy Sunday got into Frankel’s book. I heard the name of some of the mares they turned away last year and the year before and they were stronger than her. That said, from the three she’s had to race so far she’s done fairly well for herself considering what her family has done (even outside of Hansen). Gunderson has over $125k in earnings (he’s one of those super cool war horses that used to run on the midwest circuit) and Hansen’s full bro(born the year before him) has $168k in earnings.

Dr. Hansen and the mare should be really happy they went to Hansen before his first runners hit the track. With Stardom Bound and co, I’m not sure she would have gotten in a third time before Hansen became what he did.

[Drvmb1ggl3]

[QUOTE=SPRINGBORO;8877196]
that’s a light page, indeed. Where in the world did Hansen’s talent come from? And whoever would have paid $12,500 to breed THIS mare?[/QUOTE]

They paid close to $200k to breed her to Frankel, plus shipped her to England to do so.

But that Dr Kendall Hansen is a strange dude. The antics he was up to when Hansen (the horse… who names a horse after themselves???) was running were cringe worthy at times.

[Texarkana]

Not only is Stormy Sunday a real head scratcher, but man, I’m loving the Hansens I have been around. Darn shame we the Koreans snap him up. At the time, I thought, “good riddance.”

[Palm_Beach]

[QUOTE=Drvmb1ggl3;8877682]
They paid close to $200k to breed her to Frankel, plus shipped her to England to do so.

But that Dr Kendall Hansen is a strange dude. The antics he was up to when Hansen (the horse… who names a horse after themselves???) was running were cringe worthy at times.[/QUOTE]

Didn’t he dye his hair to match Hansen’s dyed tail?

[LaurieB]

[QUOTE=Texarkana;8877747]
Not only is Stormy Sunday a real head scratcher, but man, I’m loving the Hansens I have been around. Darn shame we the Koreans snap him up. At the time, I thought, “good riddance.”[/QUOTE]

So far they haven’t accomplished much as racehorses though. Could be that they’ll be better next year, but being sired by a horse who did his best running at 2, I would have expected to see more already if it was going to happen.

[gotpaints]

[QUOTE=Palm Beach;8877900]
Didn’t he dye his hair to match Hansen’s dyed tail?[/QUOTE]

Dyed the horse’s tail and hired girls to wear blue tails, ect (Here’s an article with pictures http://thebiglead.com/2012/04/18/tailgate-the-tale-of-the-blue-tail-that-would-have-given-horse-racing-a-much-needed-shot-in-the-arm/). He almost got in a fight with his trainer about the trail before the Blue Grass.

[Texarkana]

[QUOTE=LaurieB;8877978]
So far they haven’t accomplished much as racehorses though. Could be that they’ll be better next year, but being sired by a horse who did his best running at 2, I would have expected to see more already if it was going to happen.[/QUOTE]

The ones I’ve been around are surprisingly turfy and fast, not to mention big and rangy. I think one black type winner so far? Not great, but also not terrible and better than I expected with literally nothing on the bottom half of his pedigree. I would be happy to take one from the small subset I’ve seen.