Harrowing pastures

Hi everyone! Longtime lurker, first-time poster :grinning:

I recently bought a 13-acre farm with 6 boarders in Western PA and I’m learning all about pasture management. It’s…a lot. I’d like to harrow some of my pastures but I’m getting some mixed signals in my research on when horses can (or should) be allowed back on the harrowed spots. Some resources say right away, some say that horses won’t touch the area for at least 2 weeks, some say that you shouldn’t let them in the area for at least a month…I’m confused! LOL

Any guidance? It’s easy enough for me to keep the horses off of the freshly-harrowed areas, thankfully!

What is your goal? Spreading manure? Or something else?

Just trying to understand your question and your goal.

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Good question! There are some spots that I’m harrowing to prep for broadcast seeding, so those areas will be blocked off entirely. The other areas I’m harrowing to spread manure - one group of dudes loves to poop in the same (fairly large) area all the time :roll_eyes: so it’s more that area where I’m curious if I need to keep it blocked off for any amount of time.

Are you harrowing with a disc harrow or a chain harrow?

IME if using a chain harrow the horses are fine grazing again after a few days and a good rain if necessary. I prefer to rest a paddock for two weeks post harrow though. YMMV

I run a brush hog (mower) over grazed pastures rather than harrows. I find that the mower whacks the poop piles adequately AND mows down any unwanted weeds at the same time.

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I guess in theory, if you spread manure and horses graze in that area, there may be an increased chance of parasites.

However, from my experience - if there is better grazing elsewhere, they will avoid the manure areas whether you’ve dragged it or not. It’s really hard to convert those areas back into usable pasture because horses will avoid it so diligently. So I have never tried to block horses out of the areas I’ve dragged, but if you have other pastures to rotate to, it can’t hurt to do so.

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As NancyM stated, I also mow my pasture and break up the manure. Works well for me!

How short are you cutting the grass? I try to stay at about 6 inches and it doesn’t really do anything for the manure.

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You can put horses directly back on pasture after chain harrowing. Spreading the manure can actually help kill parasites as it exposes them to more extreme temperatures of the sun or cold. You also have to assume some level of parasitic burden in grazing animals. Relying on fecal exams and deworming as necessary is the best way of controlling parasites.

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Dragging/harrowing to spread manure will only help kill strongyle eggs if it’s hot and dry enough. Getting them out of the manure does remove their nice wet setting, but then can survive quite a while if it’s cool enough, even if it’s dry. For that reasons you generally don’t want to drag when it’s going to be less than 85* for a while

Unfortunately, no amount of cold (here in the continental US anyway) kills strongyle eggs.

the “don’t let them back on it for a month” is coming from the idea that if you drag a pasture as horses are coming off, that month gives time for parasite eggs to be killed (see above), and grass to regrow to a healthier height before being allowed to be grazed again.

that said, I don’t have the real option to remove horses from pasture for that long, and it’s Winter when I need to drag most often. Dung beetles do a really good job keeping manure in the pasture to a minimum during the late Spring to early Fall months. It’s a risk I take, spreading strongyle eggs, but they’re also eating hay and not doing a lot of grazing. Regular clean/low FECs tell me that my horses have healthy enough immune systems, and I deworm appropriately in Spring and Fall, that the risk isn’t outweighing the benefits of not having a field full of manure piles.

Mowing for healthy grass height will ignore most manure piles, maybe at best knock the top off them.

If you’re “harrowing to prep for broadcast seeding”, and by “harrow” you mean drag, then I would do it in reverse. Seed, mow, drag, to get the best seed to ground contact, and provide some light protection against birds. You can also mow, seed, drag if the grass is too tall to get seeds close enough to the ground to start.

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Thanks all!

All horses get fecals, so no parasites to worry about. We mow pretty high (6" at least) so it doesn’t really do much to spread the manure. The spots I want to seed are already super low (over grazed) so they wouldn’t need mowing - I was going to drag/harrow to loosen up the dirt for seeding since it’s pretty trampled down. Maybe drag once before and once after?

Sorry, I read the title and thought it was a farm-related spinoff of Wuthering Heights :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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We only harrow our pastures in the dead of winter. The horses are still out on it but they are mostly eating hay since the grass is brown and dormant in Feb when we do it.

LOL :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Maybe I missed it, but what actual equipment are you using? A chain drag isn’t going to dig up the diet with even short-grazed grass, even tines down. If you’re talking about discing, even just shallowly, that’s a different story, and that would be beneficial to do first, criss-crossing around the area, then seed, then drag over top to settle things down a bit more firmly (tines up if a chain drag)

I would try harrowing before and after. I have a pretty heavy chain harrow and as long as the ground isn’t hard and dry, it does tear it up enough to seem helpful, even with the tines down. It’s obviously not as effective as drill seeding, but much better than nothing IME.

There is, at least one that I know of, one study performed at a college where pastures were drug consistently versus a pasture that was not, and there was no absolutely no decrease in parasitic control with the drug pastures for any parasites. Thrilling, I know. I’m still of the mind set that it helps, even if it is just to make myself feel better.

I’m trying to figure out what this means LOL Maybe it’s just too early :laughing:

I thought the pastures were going to be subject to scare tactics if they didn’t grow…jsut my humour

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Hahaha. Sorry. The pastures drug with harrows showed no decrease in parasites. :woozy_face: