Has anyone tried TMS therapy?

My DD thinks I should consider it for my chronic pain/fibromyalgia - I am on daily pain meds (not depressed per se but have tried various anti-depression meds in the past with zero results) - I wonder whether it’s worth a shot?

I also wonder how much insurance covers - though most insurances do seem to cover it.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/transcranial-magnetic-stimulation/about/pac-20384625

TIA!

I have not, but will probably be starting it soon for treatment-resistant depression and SAD. My doctors are very worried about how I will do this winter; every year the SAD gets worse.

5 days a week for 7 weeks is a lot; I may have to interrupt my job search. OTOH I had a great interview for a job at the hospital where I would get the TMS, so that could make it easier.

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That’s very interesting – I would love to hear how it works for you! I posted this a while ago, my daughter had suggested it because of my chronic pain – might be worth a try because what could be the downside?

I had a co worker who used/s this therapy to treat her depression (I am using the term very broadly as I don’t know her exact diagnosis, but she described being in a timeless fog and her work was suffering during her episode). She had been on and off various medications but this actually made a huge difference for her. It was intensive - I don’t remember if it was daily or just multiple times per week, but within a month she felt positive changes. I believe she finished a course of treatment that was maybe 3 months? She knew it might not last forever but she was willing to go back if needed. I got the impression it was a last chance effort but it worked for her.

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it works for some w/ treatment resistant depression, but I don’t believe it is fda approved for chronic pain conditions, other than migraine. if this is the case, you’d be using it off label and insurance won’t cover it.

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Ahhh.

This is informative - so thank you! Does one need a diagnosis of depression before insurance will cover it?

What my psychiatrist said is yes you need a diagnosis of depression, and some insurance will require you to have tried two medications with no improvement.

Ahhh, thanks.

Looks like a no-go for me then! I have been on a few anti-depressants over the years (a LONG time ago), but they did nothing for my fibromyalgia - so it was just a waste of time.

IOW I wouldn’t “qualify”, I guess :frowning:

Thanks for the clarification!

Ive not heard of TMS therapy but a quick look and it seems to be similar to PEMF as they both use electromagnetic fields. TMS uses higher frequencies which primarily are for mental health treatments/depressions/anxiety and other neuro disorders while PEMF is lower frequency and used more for physical healing/pain management/reducing inflammation/increasing circulation.

Im a big PEMF fan, Ive got the BEMER set for my horse and I use a NeoRhythm for myself at home. The NeoRhythm has pre-set programs or you can choose your own frequencies. I use it regularly as part of my ongoing therapy for my chronic pain, anxiety, and brain fog/clutter and have found their vagus nerve programs to be the most noticeable for me. If I stop use for too long, I do notice that I get more of a punchy feeling starting to bubble up. I have the headband and the pad. Their devices are a couple hundred bucks and I think they give you a pretty good window to try them and return if you don’t feel they are benefiting you if insurance is problematic.

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Thanks @FjordBCRF - that’s very helpful! :blush:

Still worth asking your doctor IMO.

Update: the process of getting screened etc for TMS is taking some time. I spike with the clinic’s head psychiatrist on Thursday; she thinks I’m a good candidate and the clinic has started the approval process with my health insurance. I have an appointment with the clinic’s neurologist tomorrow. If everything works out, I’ll start treatment in mid-December.

As I’m getting it done at a research hospital, they’ve asked me to be in an MRI study of TMS patients - but it’s not required. I’d get 3 brain MRIs, before, during, and after treatment. They’re trying to find out if MRI imaging would allow placement of the magnetic plates customized to the patient, and if that would.improve outcomes.

But the psychiatrist says it helps about 60% of people… And it’s such a commitment, 5 days a week for at least 6 weeks, though mine will go a little longer as the clinic is closed on Christmas and New Years. She did say it’s ok to skip a day here and there as long as I’m getting at least 3 sessions a week.

She said if this doesn’t work, the next treatment to try would be esketamine.

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