Has anyone used/try lighthoof for mud control yet?

Okay, not sure if this link will work or not, but here is the quote I got…

While I think it (or something like it) would be a really good solution for the sugar sand hill we live on, a bit (a lot) over budget at the moment, but might keep in mind for the future.

https://docs.google.com/a/dukworld.net/spreadsheets/d/1pjkpEOo4z_s-u8fBbMI2NaMmby8QfXeQo0sUbM8SsjM/edit?usp=sharing

We just put in 12x27 of hoof grid and it is fantastic. We opted not to do lighthoof because my young horse will paw and play with anything and it isn’t recommended for that application. Total cost, including base rock under the grid, grid, and pea gravel on top was under 2K. We used our own tractor and it worked well. Installed and done in only a few hours by two people. Will absolutely use it again.

We also used Hoof-Grid for my paddocks off stalls. Been in for 5 or 6 years and has worked great. We had originally done the geotex plus gravel and that worked really well with the older horse, but then I brought home a young warmblood that dug…I got tired of filling holes or listening to my SO complain about filling holes so spent the $$ to put in the Hoof-Grid.

As costco_muffins observed, the Lighthoof can be damaged by horses that dig so that took it out of consideration for my uses. The rigid grid like Hoof-Grid is a better choice where digging is a possibility.

Being in the land of rain and clay soil, if I could afford to grid the whole property, I would! Love the stuff.

[QUOTE=costco_muffins;8619360]
We just put in 12x27 of hoof grid and it is fantastic. We opted not to do lighthoof because my young horse will paw and play with anything and it isn’t recommended for that application. Total cost, including base rock under the grid, grid, and pea gravel on top was under 2K. We used our own tractor and it worked well. Installed and done in only a few hours by two people. Will absolutely use it again.[/QUOTE]

Where did you purchase it through? Found that Barn Pros sells it and they have a pallet listed at $2,390 that is supposed to cover 720 sq ft.

Another rigid grid to look at is a new one called Ecogreengrid. It is manufactured right here in my backyard (same town) so I’m considering using it when we hopefully expand my dry lots in the future. My vet put some in and was happy with it. This is the website.

We paid ~$2/sq.ft. for the Hoof-Grid when we put it in, but the local vendor is no longer carrying it. Not having to ship helped a bunch on pricing. There are other similar products (Stable-Grid and EcoTerr I think are some names) so when I was shopping, I priced them all and it really came down to the cost of shipping. They all seemed to be good quality products.

[QUOTE=froglander;8619392]
Where did you purchase it through? Found that Barn Pros sells it and they have a pallet listed at $2,390 that is supposed to cover 720 sq ft.[/QUOTE]

We bought direct from the distributor, since he is only one town over. It was $3 a sq ft including a discount for having a farm plan.

Lol, here in Florida need it more for the sand than mud :frowning: Wish there was something like this being manufactured/distributed down here! Shipping from the PNW sounds a bit pricey :frowning:

[QUOTE=froglander;8619217]
Okay, not sure if this link will work or not, but here is the quote I got…

While I think it (or something like it) would be a really good solution for the sugar sand hill we live on, a bit (a lot) over budget at the moment, but might keep in mind for the future.

https://docs.google.com/a/dukworld.net/spreadsheets/d/1pjkpEOo4z_s-u8fBbMI2NaMmby8QfXeQo0sUbM8SsjM/edit?usp=sharing[/QUOTE]

Nope, need permission to view :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=Simkie;8619870]
Nope, need permission to view :)[/QUOTE]

Okay, I think I fixed the permissions

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pjkpEOo4z_s-u8fBbMI2NaMmby8QfXeQo0sUbM8SsjM/edit?usp=sharing

Here is the information direct from Hoof Grid:

for your application, our HoofGrid®M/D1.5 grade would be recommended.
12x27 area = 324 sqft
for 324 sqft, you would need to order at least 27 layers (pre-assembled sheets, 3x4, 12 sqft ea, stacked on pallet) = 324 sqft
Price list attached for your reference.
at this volume, Retail price, $3.29/sqft
King Co CD participant price, 15% off retail price!
x $2.80/sqft = $907.20 plus tax and delivery (if applicable)

Excavate 6" of existing paddock
Add 4" of 5/8" size or 3/4" size clear crushed gravel (no fines)
Compact with Plate compactor
Place Hoof Grid, compact with compactor before filling
Add pea gravel, compact again.
then 2-3 inches of sand, p-gravel, or a mix of the two on top of the grid. (2" if p-gravel, 3 inches if sand or mix…)
Note: if you use p-gravel or a mix sand/p-gravel, let’s talk so i can give you a short cut on application!

FWIW, the under 2k included renting a compactor and the cost of the gravel.

Yes! Lighthoof Works for Pawing Horses and Young Playful Horses!

[QUOTE=costco_muffins;8619360]
We opted not to do lighthoof because my young horse will paw and play with anything and it isn’t recommended for that application.[/QUOTE]

Hi! :slight_smile: I’m from Lighthoof and I was told that I should take a look at this thread to address pawing or digging concerns for other members.

In fact, I think I may have been the one who created this myth! Oops! When talking on the phone, I’ve been telling people that Lighthoof won’t stop horses from digging, which is true, and that they might not like the way it looks once it’s been pawed at for a while. But it’s not true that it won’t hold up to digging, pawing or playing or that it’s possible for horses to ruin it, if properly installed.

Lighthoof was specially designed and patented to be durable enough to withstand the rigors of high traffic horse areas. Because the cell walls are flexible yet made from a very tough plastic, when a horse uncovers the cell, the top 1/4 inch of the cell wall bends over when pawed at rather than breaking.

I have a young horse at my farm that dug down to the cells by her gate and loves to grab the edge of the panel with her teeth. It looks a little messier than the perfectly smooth raked gravel, but it hasn’t caused a problem for her paddock or needed repair or replacing. Just a little dirty and beat up on the very top edge. Still quite mud-free.

Hope this info helps! I’ll try to work on a video to show why this is true and post it so that everyone can see the pawing in action! :slight_smile:

kb1223, did you put down geotextile under it?

I bought a couple of these panels but haven’t installed them yet. I was planning on putting down fabric anyway. Your area looks great. I bought for a gate area that gets too soggy in winter and will be very happy if it looks like yours!

I have a green honeycomb styled product in my stalls. I inherited it. I hate it. The stalls don’t drain or dry out EVER so i put mats over them.They also developed low spots.

What’s a “farm plan”??

costco-muffins, if I take you guys out to dinner*, will you come talk to me when it comes time? I am planning an all weather area off the barn for when Rory does something stupid or whenever limited turnout is needed, and also want to put it down off the three stalls on the other side. I was thinking French drains off the stalls (only the donkeys will have regular in/out) but think that this might be better. And it has to be something they can’t get to because Argie is ruining the donkey stall by dragging the mats around.

*Not fast food either!! :lol:

Of course! I am not sure when we are on the island next - but you are also welcome to come down to our place :slight_smile:

And a farm plan is via the county conservation district… not sure if they do that on Whidbey

Hmmmm… not sure but can ask :slight_smile:

@kb1223 Not sure if you saw the question but now I have the same one. Did you install geotex under the Lighthoof? I lucked into 10 panels of it by chance (someone had it, was moving and wanted to offload it) and am going to be installing it around my barn.

Or @lighthoof ??

Lighthoof installation instructions do say to use fabric under the cells. The guide is here:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/10…tion-Guide.pdf

I know, but I’m asking if it can go without :wink:

I’d love to use it but it’s just so darn expensive!