Has anyone used/try lighthoof for mud control yet?

http://lighthoof.com/

It’s different than some of the other ones because it isn’t rigid. They say it requires less prep, but looking through their installation manual it doesn’t actually look like less.

Anyway, experiences anyone?

Looks neat.

The Lighthoof product installs on top of the existing grade. No digging/less work, but you end up with a surface that is raised about 4"-6". Cow Carpet, for instance, is applied after you remove existing top soil, so there is excavation involved. Then the top soil (or gravel) is put back in place.

Cow Carpet and the GeoTextile used under the Lightfoot are the same thing IME.

No experience with it, but it looks like it would be just the ticket for my night pen, which is about 24x72. I checked out their install/info guide, and it would cost nearly $4000 just for the grids (24 @ $162 each), not counting the additional cost of geotex and stone… Using their suggested numbers, I suspect I could probably hire somebody to come in with a bobcat, dig out the mud, install the geotex and top it with stone for about what I’d spend on just the grids.
Oh well, it’s a nice idea.

Might be a great product to just use at gates…

It looks awesome. I do wish it was cheaper. As I can come up with all sorts of places to use it.

I’d be willing to bet that the product is available elsewhere for some other application and at a cheaper price. Wish I knew what to search for- that stuff looks workable.

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I’d be willing to bet that the product is available elsewhere for some other application and at a cheaper price. Wish I knew what to search for- that stuff looks workable.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree. Certain this product wasn’t developed solely for use with horses. Looks cool though. If someone figures it out please post!!

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If you look up geo cells, terracell, geo grid, and geotextile you will find several different and some similar products. I haven’t seen anything with a price listed, but you can email them for a quote.

Examples from a quick search:
http://www.geosynthetica.net/geoweb-used-to-repair-underground-pavements/

http://www.usfabricsinc.com/products/cellular-confinement

https://www.hanes-products.com/files/documents/doc69.pdf

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Looks to me as if they might just be reselling Terracell from Hanes.

Just looked at the specs for Terracell and the Envirogrid and while the concept is the same, the cell size on these is about twice the size of the Lighthoof.
Terracell/Envirogrid - expanded cell size 10.2" x 8.8"
Lighthoof - expanded cell size 5" x 7.2"
I think the bigger grid wouldn’t work as well for horses.
Darnit - I was hoping there was a less expensive way to do this stuff.

Just wanted to bump this topic up! This looks great, but agreeing with other members, just seems too expensive to actually cover any ground.

Has anyone used this and thinks its worth the $$?

Or any less expensive (horse-safe) alternatives?

Thanks

I am looking at Farmtek soil stabilization grids. They are flexible rubber mats with holes that I think will work on the small section I need them for.

As for gates what I did was to use very small rock, either pea gravel or the angular pea size gravel (which I prefer because it packs) works great to prevent mud at the gate.

Just for curiosity I have contacted this site to get a quote

http://www.ecorasterhorse.com/

I came across someone using it on Facebook.

Please post the price after you get your quote.

I, too, would love to find a reasonable $ fix to some problem areas!

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Please post the price after you get your quote.

I, too, would love to find a reasonable $ fix to some problem areas![/QUOTE]

Will do, I got one reply, requesting more info as to what I was looking for, so hopefully will hear back soon :slight_smile:

Why would you even need this? What benefit is there to the normal geotextile with layers of gravel on top?

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Just for curiosity I have contacted this site to get a quote

http://www.ecorasterhorse.com/

I came across someone using it on Facebook.[/QUOTE]

Why would you go with that instead of a US product like this?

http://www.hoofgrid.net/hoofgrid_in_horse_stalls.htm

or

http://bucksnortmorgans.tripod.com/StablePros/index.html

Just seems like the cost to import would make it more costly?

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Why would you go with that instead of a US product like this?

http://www.hoofgrid.net/hoofgrid_in_horse_stalls.htm

or

http://bucksnortmorgans.tripod.com/StablePros/index.html

Just seems like the cost to import would make it more costly?[/QUOTE]

Was curious as to pricing. Came across Facebook that someone was installing it so I just wondered.

Also, was interested in how they used it for hillside erosion control which some of their sample pictures show.

I put Hoofgrid in my barn’s 3 attached 40 foot runs, down the fenceline between the barn and my run in shed (so in front of the two gates and under the water trough, both areas muddy messes in the spring), don’t know the distance…sorry, but not that far… two years ago and it was worth every penny. I had their crew install it, which required four guys, plus a driver delivering gravel loads and another running the Bobcat.

Took them an entire day. Cost me $10,000. Gulp.

But it was worth every single solitary penny! Changed my life. I’m not exaggerating, either. This wet and awful spring I never once had my boots sucked off, my horses were able to stand on dry ground, and I could actually use those gates.

This area is flat, so can’t speak to use in a hilly area. But for me, money well spent.

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