[QUOTE=SharonA;5042741]
Thanks, everyone! I am glad to hear that it is not some sort of evasion from using her hind end — ie, she is not using the lowered neck and head to compensate for not using her hind end… that’s what I was concerned about.
your hands ok look here page 1 link 2
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178116
This is not a dressage-y extended trot in that her head and neck are not in a dressage frame – they’re lower and I betcha her head is alittle in front of the vertical and again, she is FLYING. No big stupid WB can move like this, this fast. (what? What? Prejudice, you say? Stereotyping, you say?:lol:) It’s not round and soft so much as it is driving power with some elasticity. And, while it’s not terrible, she’s heavy on the forehand. I find myself throwing in half-halts. I might like to get her balanced alittle more at this pace, but I’m not going to take away all her fun by making her be uber-correct (as if that were within the realm of reality).
arh, typical of the arab they have a high head carriage so not so easy to bring the nose down for some,
read page one and re address how your doing your half halts stride
as this bring her off the forehand as you already know but i have a funny feeling your only doing them as a sort off half understanding of what the half halt does
so bring her back to walk and teach her it in walk to halt so she understands it more so as there no where esle to go but stop
read page one describes how to do the half halt properly
ok and use it in all yourt transitions,
page 1 and liink 2 is still relevent
She is an Arab, and used to carry her head very high and travel hollow-backed, but we don’t do that anymore and as she is a lady, her hind legs are not as far apart as those of the Arab in the posted link.
link 2 still relevent
Seriously, though, I don’t think she can pull off quite that much flexibility/athleticism in her hinds.
she can but as the horse is headset and more than likely carrying your bodyweight into the head area cant engage her back side, as your asking with your legs but supporting your bodyweight into her head so all she can do is stick her nose in the air and run away from you
read this link your not alone as its common problem but can be addressed if you can change the way you yourself are riding her as its rider error as the horse
is doing what your asking
http://www.meredithmanor.com/features/articles/faith/fixing_bit_evasions.asp
But, since I know she can move like this on the trail, you know what that means for her for when we do our dressage schooling (insert evil laughter here).[/QUOTE]
haha , but depends if you want a horse you can control and extend when you want to or you want horse that tells you when it wants to your choice
this is what happening when i say your horse is running i have taken a paragraph out of link 2
becuase its relevent you need to back off with your hands and learn to use an independant sseat , sit into the horse
doesnt matter be dressage or endurance like i said schooling is schooling once you have a good foundation of equitation then you can bring that horse on and into any dispiline i do this all the time for people as in re trian there neddies
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Other horses go behind the bit by curling their neck and putting their noses to their chests to avoid the hand and bit. This is a harder evasion to correct than going above the bit. Horses commonly go behind the bit when, again, the rider’s hands are unsteady. Bits that are too large, do not fit properly, and draw reins are other contributors to the problem. If a horse is worked in a leverage bit with a chain under his chin, he is more likely to try to evade
by going behind rather than above it.
this is what shes doing when you get the head down and gone type thing as you describe ok
and this is what shes doing when your riding
Evasions take various forms. Some horses tend to go above the bit. They raise their heads high, tense their neck, tighten their back, and tense their hindquarters, often because their conformation predisposes them that way in the first place. The result is that they cannot step off correctly with their hind feet. Horses commonly evade the bit by going above it when the rider’s hands are unsteady or when there is not enough forward motion. The rider may be tentative and doesn’t allow the horse’s forward motion, the rider may not know how to use driving aids properly to send the horse forward, or the rider may not have the strength and coordination to ask the horse to move forward freely.
as ddescribe by you as the horse has her head in the air
rider error not the horse so up to you , like i said your choice you can change it but iam not going to lie its going to take time and work
but depends on if you want to do something as a hobby with your horse like jumping endurance dressage etc if you want her to do a proper job
or to be a general hack then help her out abit and learn how to ride her a lot better tahn you do, good for you, as it will be a learning curve for you and good for her as in the end you will have a far better rersult and a good team wrok and great partnership with your horse
