What would have your preference for long term supplementation?
HEIRO Health E
http://www.horsehealthusa.com/detail…-E/493-20.html
KPP Elevate E
http://kppusa.com/product/elevate-maintenance-powder/
Ker Nano E
https://ker.com/antioxidants/nano-e/
Health E mentions is contains all 8 forms of Vit E? Is that necessary? It’s otherwise synthetic E.
Other two are natural Vit E.
Thank you for any thoughts 
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Santa Cruz.
https://www.scahealth.com/scah/product/ultracruz-equine-vitamin-e-horse-supplement
11 cents per 1000 iu natural vit e. Why pay significantly more for the same product elsewhere?
The Nano E is water soluble, a bit of a different product than the first two you have linked.
Agree with that - unless I had a specific reason for using something $$$ like Elevate (and there really are some horses who need that, for whatever reason, I’d love to figure that out) - I’d at least start with the UltraCruz Natural E. Or, if you don’t want to end up a year’s worth of a powder that doesn’t seem to be doing the job, you could start with human gel caps from Walmart (or wherever), such as the Spring Valley brand. 1000IU caps, toss in 3 (so you’re getting minimally 2IU/lb, assuming he’s bigger than 1000lb), and see how that goes in a few months. If that’s doing its job, then either keep that up (pretty much the same price per IU) or go with the UltraCruz powder.
Thank you JB & Simkie.
Didn’t think of Santa Cruz, I’ve used that in the past, will go back to that :).
I was just trying to figure out why HEIRO makes these claims about all 8 forms of E being present in their product, which made me wonder if it thereby would be superior.
When my horse tested very low for Vit E, I used the Nano-e as I think I read it gets in to their system quicker than a powered supplement. After her numbers came back to normal range, I switched her to Elevate powdered version.
my older horse I always used the Smartpak Vit E pellets as it was tastier for a finicky eater.
I will only only use the natural version.
UltraCruz comes in both a pellet or powder version. 4000 IU per scoop in either product.
Not sure how they can claim that when their own ingredient lists only gives dl-alpha tocopherol. That’s 1 form.
The 8 forms are 4 of the tocopherols (alpha, beta, gamma, delta), and the same 4 of the tocotrienols. I’ve personally never seen any supplement list the tocotrienols, and only a very few list anything other than alpha tocopherol. Alpha tocopherol is the best form of them all, so it only makes economical sense in most cases to just use that - the most bang for the buck.
When I have seen others (and just in people supps, haven’t run across it in horses, though I’m sure it probably exists) I’ve seen gamma in addition to alpha, and I think I’ve seen beta as well, though I can’t remember if all 3 were present, or just 2 of them. We need them all, and I’m sure they all benefit horses too.
So I got really curious and did some quick research. Apparently, when listing just d-alpha tocopherol, they really mean that all 4 forms are included as a function of the source of the E, but when they don’t list the other 3, they don’t have to pay for the testing and labeling as to how much of each. So, that makes sense, and accounts for 4 of the 8 here.
I looked for sources of the tocotrienols to see if the same thing held true - not worth the expense of testing for and labeling amounts of the 4 forms there. Rice bran and palm oil seem to be the common sources if these forms, but I can’t find an ingredient list in the Health-E.
So either way, it seems they are likely making a big deal about something that a lot of other companies/products also have.
Super, thank you JB, for researching this one! That’s precisely what I needed.
I already figured Health-E was some type of marketing ploy they used mentioning the 8 forms etc.
Santa Cruz it will be.
You are right Hayburner, may vet mentioned something about starting with a liquid E, I’ve actually done the Nano-E for a month and was now wondering what to continue with :).
Although anecdotally, my vet seemed under the impression that Nano E or any other liquid E will get blood values up quickly, but they don’t retain it long, hence for longterm use he thought powder/pellet might be better. But these were just his thoughts, no solid claims
What were your horses numbers? If fairly low I would stay on the liquid version and give 5-8,000 units a day for a couple of months. It does take time even with high Doses to get to the normal or above range.
When i I checked out Elevate they suggested when you switch from their liquid version (which I wasn’t using) to their powder to slowly transition over. I have no idea why, but I did it when I went from Nano-e to Elevate powder. I’m OCD though, lol…
Even tho my horses number is in the normal range, I still give 2,000 iu a day in the summer and 3 iu in the winter. It can’t hurt them and rather than risk a drop in numbers again, I give a little extra than the recommended dosage.
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