Help for Friend Who Wants to Breed Mares

Yep, the market is so flooded right now … even very well bred QH babies out of proven producers are bringing little to nothing.

Of course there will be several people that might feed him the line that ‘the good ones are still worth the money’ …but it’s still like a herd of elephants if someone on those QH forums posts a ‘I’m looking for World Show caliber youngster for less than $2500’

I would check out the sale sites like Dreamhorse and Equine.com for those bloodlines … also take into consideration who is selling to who — some of the auctions have been known to run the bids up on a few, to make it look good.

I would also look at the sire he has chosen – how many foals does he have on the ground, how many performers, what are they bringing at sales, and who is buying them. The demographics of his market and how it is affected by the economy may play a bigger part than he realizes.

Also, what futurities or incentive funds are the stallion nominated to … that can make a difference when it does come time to sell the foal. For example, in the APHA – people won’t hardly look at a Paint baby unless it’s enrolled in the Breeders Trust.

And, like it’s been mentioned, he better plan on keeping the foal until it’s at least 2 years old … no one is buying babies. Truthfully, there is no market in breeding … and probably won’t be for several years.

Great post, spotsinabox. Thank you.

Edit: I found several offspring of the sire he wants to use for sale on both sites–some of them are being offered at hefty prices, but these are established, older horses with show records. I can’t find many youngsters listed but will keep looking. I would like to see the prices recent horses have actually sold for, but I haven’t found those yet. Will keep looking.

Another issue that disturbs me about my friend is that he has not taken training fees into account.

If you don’t mind me asking …who is the sire? And exactly how are the mares bred? Also, how does the stallion compliment the mares??

As so many of us know, stud fee is the cheapest piece of the puzzle … you start adding in feed, care, vet, for mare and foal, and then as you suggest, training … it can mushroom pretty fast.

Also, I think there is a lot of fads or ‘flavor of the month’ that influences the QH markets. I’m not saying there aren’t some horses brining some good prices, but I think it is a rarity in comparison to people loosing their shirts…

sent you a PM

Does the stallion owner offer services to help support/market the offspring? IF nominated? Lots and lots that would go into this. And IMO, pleasure (WP or HP) is not a “Hot” discipline right now, until they are able to be Youth/Ammy horses. If he was doing racing, or barrels, or a performance discipline, it would be different (IMO) but if he’s doing pleasure, they need to be trained (mostly).