Help! Looking for Jill from Gray Fox Farms

[QUOTE=skydy;6239902]
Oh Dear…
Don’t be embarassed, G.F.F. is the one who should be …

It really is too bad. It’s good though, that you got your mare out and didn’t just bury your head in the sand.

Mr. Parker do you recall my description of what happens to one’s arse when one buries their head in the sand? Really , open your eyes man…:eek:[/QUOTE]

Skydy you failed to receive the message. Take GFF out of the equation and insert any number of names. My response is the same. You and others apparently seemed focused that this is a personal plea for GFF.

I appreciate the MO’s story. Sonesta’s excuses don’t fly. I read that lawsuit was several years old, obviously she knew. She posted it to stir things up.

There are several respected breeders out there who have made one post then stayed quiet. Those would be the people I would enjoy dealing with.:yes:

[QUOTE=Tapperjockey;6240458]
What was negative? "“Jill, you need to contact John French right away.” is not negative at all. It is saying that someone is looking for you. Perhaps it’s so John can wish her a happy birthday for all anyone knows from that sentence. . And depending on the account and privacy settings and type of FB accounts… you can’t do that. Many business pages and group pages, you post on the wall or can’t contact them at all because FB doesn’t do messaging for them… If you can find the manager/etc… then you may be able to message them if they have the account set to receive messages and/or are on your friends list already.[/QUOTE]

She posted that and a link to the suit. Come on, really? Helping? Please :no: The only reason she did that was to bully her on her FB page and exploit her to anyone else who was following her farm news. Even more disturbing is she has nothing to do with any of the matters at hand.

[QUOTE=RoyParker;6240464]
Skydy you failed to receive the message. Take GFF out of the equation and insert any number of names. My response is the same. You and others apparently seemed focused that this is a personal plea for GFF.

I appreciate the MO’s story. Sonesta’s excuses don’t fly. I read that lawsuit was several years old, obviously she knew. She posted it to stir things up.

There are several respected breeders out there who have made one post then stayed quiet. Those would be the people I would enjoy dealing with.:yes:[/QUOTE]

It was several years old when she posted it? Wow! :eek: Even more sad and mean spirited.

Some “professionals” that have posted on this thread dont surprise me. Mostly one of them that I have had negative dealings with in the past on lying about her stallions. But a few have really surprised me in their commiserable actions.

[QUOTE=Tobias01;6240486]
She posted that and a link to the suit. Come on, really? Helping? Please :no: The only reason she did that was to bully her on her FB page and exploit her to anyone else who was following her farm news. Even more disturbing is she has nothing to do with any of the matters at hand.[/QUOTE]

You are a bald faced liar. There was no link to anything.

[QUOTE=Sonesta;6240701]
You are a bald faced liar. There was no link to anything.[/QUOTE]

Tobias = Andras

I don’t care who “it” is. “It” is a liar. Plain and simple. When I posted that message there was NOT any lawsuit filed yet.

I just read this “thing’s” next post quoting RoyParker who claims I posted it “years after the suit.”

I repeat. I posted that Jill should contact John French right away and I posted it the SAME DAY that John made his post saying if he didn’t hear from her he was filing suit.

I am beginning to suspect that we have “battling alters” here now. And obviously they feel that the best defense is a good offense.

I saw the post when it was posted and there was then and is now no link to anything. Personally I think those of you who are blindly defending her are worse than the people who may have gone a little overboard in bashing her. At least those people have a leg to stand upon. Unless and until Jill owns up and attempts to make amends neither she nor her defenders do. We have all made mistakes and shown bad judgement at some point, maybe not to the extent of multiple lawsuits and losing our home but we have done it. And we all know that pretending nothing happened won’t fix anything. This is not going to go away regardless of the squawking on either side.

[QUOTE=Bayhawk;6240713]
Tobias = Andras[/QUOTE]

Not even slightly close. :lol:

[QUOTE=Sonesta;6240717]
I don’t care who “it” is. “It” is a liar. Plain and simple. When I posted that message there was NOT any lawsuit filed yet.

I just read this “thing’s” next post quoting RoyParker who claims I posted it “years after the suit.”

I repeat. I posted that Jill should contact John French right away and I posted it the SAME DAY that John made his post saying if he didn’t hear from her he was filing suit.

I am beginning to suspect that we have “battling alters” here now. And obviously they feel that the best defense is a good offense.[/QUOTE]

I have no dog in this fight.
The suit was filled sometime before Feb 2010 because that’s when the first hearing was held. A warrant was issued in late Sept 2010.
So Sonesta, when did you post about the suit, not recently I hope?

I don’t have a dog in the fight. Here is a link to the facebook post that I was able to dig up with a quick google search:

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150534052448281&id=106399698280

I also took a screenshot of it in case it happens to disappear. No link to any lawsuit.

Thanks, Plain Jane. I was trying to find it to do the same thing.

[QUOTE=Sonesta;6240717]
I don’t care who “it” is. “It” is a liar. Plain and simple. When I posted that message there was NOT any lawsuit filed yet.

I just read this “thing’s” next post quoting RoyParker who claims I posted it “years after the suit.”

I repeat. I posted that Jill should contact John French right away and I posted it the SAME DAY that John made his post saying if he didn’t hear from her he was filing suit.

I am beginning to suspect that we have “battling alters” here now. And obviously they feel that the best defense is a good offense.[/QUOTE]

No defense, no offense. Just trying minding your own business, even though I have a feeling that is hard for someone like yourself.

[QUOTE=Kmsuds;6235479]
Silvercreek I have re-read your post, and in turn I would ask you to do the same. I have NEVER suggested someone not post their concern or their own experience. I simply do not want to be attacked for posting mine.

Your post was talking of friends who had issues etc, then SO using an “alter” to bash your stallion.

I was just accused of being an “alter” so if I say something bad about a stallion it’s quite easy for that stallion owner to say “oh it’s an alter bashing”. I am not saying you weren’t telling the truth, I just prefer to see situations where the lines aren’t blurred. And again as I said previously I just think it looks worse when it’s stallion owners representing their own business doing the bashing. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

Precisely. :yes:

[QUOTE=Tobias01;6240825]
Precisely. :yes:[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes: It is easy to see you have a personal vendetta simply by viewing your post history which is primarily negative posts against the stallion test and NASHF. It is hard to take someone seriously when they hide behind an alter and/or anonymity, so type away! :lol:

[QUOTE=showjumpers66;6240861]
:rolleyes: It is easy to see you have a personal vendetta simply by viewing your post history which is primarily negative posts against the stallion test and NASHF. It is hard to take someone seriously when they hide behind an alter and/or anonymity, so type away! :lol:[/QUOTE]

I told you who it is Barb…Andras !

The bottom line …whether its here or FB or a website or a mass email we have heard from A LOT of people except the one that should have been making the statements Jill B.

I don’t know 90% of the people on this board personally but if someone questioned my morality business practice and ethics you bet your ass I’d defend it and if I was wrong be double timing to make amends.

Life is short but the internet is long … can’t really live down what someone can google up 10 years from now … especially when there is not a single nuance of rebuke or explanation other then what a few Alters have droned on about.

I hope the horses land softly and that Jill gets things sorted out eventually. There is no hate but certainly a big spoonful of apprehension and concern.

[QUOTE=showjumpers66;6240861]
:rolleyes: It is easy to see you have a personal vendetta simply by viewing your post history which is primarily negative posts against the stallion test and NASHF. It is hard to take someone seriously when they hide behind an alter and/or anonymity, so type away! :lol:[/QUOTE]

Yes, I choose to use an alias because I do not feel like threatening emails and ranting phone calls at all time of the night from YOUR type here do when they get called out on being unprofessional or fallacious.

You know EXACTLY what Im talking about too. :wink:

And no, not Andras. :lol:

[QUOTE=Tobias01;6240918]
Yes, I choose to use an alias because I do not feel like threatening emails and ranting phone calls at all time of the night from YOUR type here do when they get called out on being unprofessional or fallacious.

You know EXACTLY what Im talking about too. :wink:

And no, not Andras. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Andras , we all know it’s you. How’s that website going that’s devoted to you coming along ?

[QUOTE=Sonesta;6240717]
I don’t care who “it” is. “It” is a liar. Plain and simple. When I posted that message there was NOT any lawsuit filed yet.

I just read this “thing’s” next post quoting RoyParker who claims I posted it “years after the suit.”

I repeat. I posted that Jill should contact John French right away and I posted it the SAME DAY that John made his post saying if he didn’t hear from her he was filing suit.

I am beginning to suspect that we have “battling alters” here now. And obviously they feel that the best defense is a good offense.[/QUOTE]

Sonesta, the lawsuit was filed in 2010. You posted something on Jill’s wall after John posted he could not get ahold of her. You were not being a helpful soul you were instigating. I did not take from Tobias that you enclosed a physical link to the lawsuit, but that you were trying to get other’s out there to piece it together. But whatever the reason, again just bad business on your end. Whatever you mean by battling alters, etc I’m not quite sure, we speak clearly and intelligently yet you continue to post things that make no sense. Again, bad business.:no:

[QUOTE=Rumonek;6240421]
Interesting, as Jill is on HGS talking about looking forward to doing “LOTS” and “MULTIPLE” embryo transfers with a couple of mares mentioned here on this thread.[/QUOTE]

And now she’s not allowed to try and make money to pay the people she owes? YES please do take this post as my defending GFF because in this case I believe she should do anything possible to get the money she needs to straighten out her affairs.