[QUOTE=Bayhawk;6240924]
Andras , we all know it’s you. How’s that website going that’s devoted to you coming along ?[/QUOTE]
Im really not Andras. Sorry.
Seriously I just have to look at this thread and write lists of who not to do business with. Very Very sad. There are so many reputable breeding farms out there that I KNOW have had every opportunity to pipe in on this subject and have not. I guess I said it before, but it simply is not attractive. I would love you all (the ones who have time to sit around and count horses on google) to make a list of CA barns and do the same thing. Count, check on housing, grass etc. And I would love to hear what the results are 
Maybe an article on COTH?
How in the world are ETs going to make her money??? Sure, maybe in 18 months, but she is going to spend thousands on each attempt and those attempts are going to be hit and miss. If she does get embryos, then she will be taking on even more mares to carry the embryos. This is a terrible idea for someone in financial distress. She should be using this money to pay off her bad debts and not flushing it down the toilet.
[QUOTE=RoyParker;6240940]
And now she’s not allowed to try and make money to pay the people she owes? YES please do take this post as my defending GFF because in this case I believe she should do anything possible to get the money she needs to straighten out her affairs.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RoyParker;6240940]
And now she’s not allowed to try and make money to pay the people she owes? YES please do take this post as my defending GFF because in this case I believe she should do anything possible to get the money she needs to straighten out her affairs.[/QUOTE]
Yes, there is nothing wrong with her trying to fix her situation.
She is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t, mostly with the bigot tribe here after her.
WHO are any of you to judge her anyway?
If she does not owe YOU money or have personal business dealing with YOU, then none of you have a right to be shooting off your vile opinions about a situation you do not have first hand knowledge or facts of.
As stated before many of you “professionals” should be ashamed of yourself.
[QUOTE=RoyParker;6240940]
And now she’s not allowed to try and make money to pay the people she owes? YES please do take this post as my defending GFF because in this case I believe she should do anything possible to get the money she needs to straighten out her affairs.[/QUOTE]
Then may I suggest she stop accumulating horses. That she may have the equivalent of a Chapter 11 or 13 plan? Then either disperse or reorganize : reconstitute and rebuild or abandon the business.
Trouble is that it is one thing to have made an effort to start a business …whole different story to: not pay any bills, lie, shaft other breeders, etc etc etc.
And whoever you are Tobias …maybe Stacey ? Another fab friend also cited for unpaid bills ? No credibility !
[QUOTE=showjumpers66;6240956]
How in the world are ETs going to make her money??? Sure, maybe in 18 months, but she is going to spend thousands on each attempt and those attempts are going to be hit and miss. If she does get embryos, then she will be taking on even more mares to carry the embryos. This is a terrible idea for someone in financial distress. She should be using this money to pay off her bad debts and not flushing it down the toilet.[/QUOTE]
See, you just cant help yourself but to say something bad, ONCE AGAIN!
Who are YOU too worry about it.
Other than give you a chance to bad mouth yet another person in the horse industry to try to make yourself hopefully look better? Why don’t YOU concentrate on taking care of your own affairs and stop talking bad about other people to make yourself look better. There is a thought!
[QUOTE=3Dogs;6240967]
Then may I suggest she stop accumulating horses. That she may have the equivalent of a Chapter 11 or 13 plan? Then either disperse or reorganize : reconstitute and rebuild or abandon the business.
Trouble is that it is one thing to have made an effort to start a business …whole different story to: not pay any bills, lie, shaft other breeders, etc etc etc.
And whoever you are Tobias …maybe Stacey ? Another fab friend also cited for unpaid bills ? No credibility ![/QUOTE]
Well bless your heart. Wrong again.
3Dogs, do you have a direct link to JB in any business relation? Please explain your creditable right to pass judgement on her.
[QUOTE=showjumpers66;6240956]
How in the world are ETs going to make her money??? Sure, maybe in 18 months, but she is going to spend thousands on each attempt and those attempts are going to be hit and miss. If she does get embryos, then she will be taking on even more mares to carry the embryos. This is a terrible idea for someone in financial distress. She should be using this money to pay off her bad debts and not flushing it down the toilet.[/QUOTE]
I can’t speak to that and know nothing associated with the costs of ET. But she has listed at least 10? of her horses for sale recently very NICE mares and foals. Again just disappointed with stallion/breeding barns here,I had made it a goal not to post today and unfortunately did it again. Will try and make that goal stick and hope that it just stops.
[QUOTE=Tobias01;6240982]
Well bless your heart. Wrong again.
3Dogs, do you have a direct link to JB in any business relation? Please explain your creditable right to pass judgement on her.[/QUOTE]
That’s absurd logic. That’s like saying I can’t make a judgement about if I’d have a racehorse in training with Rick Dutrow because I’ve never had one in training with him. :no: I’ve also never had any dealings with Gary Glitter but I can most certainly pass judgement on if I’d use him as a babysitter or not. :o
:lol: I had the same goal, too, and ended up posting again.
We have tried to do ETs a few times and have spent over $5000 each time with no embryo to show for it. If we had gotten an embryo then we would have had more fees to implant the embryo (I believe it was $1800) plus the lease or purchase and the maintenance for the mare who would be carrying the foal.
[QUOTE=Galileo1998;6241008]
That’s absurd logic. That’s like saying I can’t make a judgement about if I’d have a racehorse in training with Rick Dutrow because I’ve never had one in training with him. :no: I’ve also never had any dealings with Gary Glitter but I can most certainly pass judgement on if I’d use him as a babysitter or not. :o[/QUOTE]
ROTFL!!!
[QUOTE=Galileo1998;6241008]
That’s absurd logic. That’s like saying I can’t make a judgement about if I’d have a racehorse in training with Rick Dutrow because I’ve never had one in training with him. :no: I’ve also never had any dealings with Gary Glitter but I can most certainly pass judgement on if I’d use him as a babysitter or not. :o[/QUOTE]
:lol::lol::lol: Logic does not seem to come into it for these folks. Logic goes out the window when you try to defend the indefensible…They obviously have an agenda :winkgrin:
[QUOTE=Tobias01;6240948]
Im really not Andras. Sorry.[/QUOTE]
Like we are supposed to believe you just because you say it ? Of course you wouldn’t admit anything as your whole M.O. is to hide now isn’t it ?
Grow a pair and bring yourself to the light and quit hiding like a little scardy cat !
[QUOTE=Bayhawk;6241161]
Like we are supposed to believe you just because you say it ? Of course you wouldn’t admit anything as your whole M.O. is to hide now isn’t it ?
Grow a pair and bring yourself to the light and quit hiding like a little scardy cat ![/QUOTE]
And who might you be?
Probably 90% of the people posting here are using an alter ( including yourself).
You see how silly this is don’t you?
WOW
This is one of the best train wrecks, EVER !
[QUOTE=Bayhawk;6240900]
I told you who it is Barb…Andras ![/QUOTE]
who’s Andras ?
[QUOTE=Mardi;6241222]
This is one of the best train wrecks, EVER ![/QUOTE]
I was just thinking - is this the most pages (we’re at 23 now) ever? Most comments ever? It has to make the COTH recordbook somewhere!
[QUOTE=MysticOakRanch;6241257]
I was just thinking - is this the most pages (we’re at 23 now) ever? Most comments ever? It has to make the COTH recordbook somewhere![/QUOTE]
Longest thread I remember was the one by AnnaCrew i think it was…
but that wasn’t a train wreck really.
I think the record thread was Suerte’s. 
[QUOTE=Bayhawk;6240900]
I told you who it is Barb…Andras ![/QUOTE]
Who is Andras???
