Help me figure out this figure 8 noseband!

[Equestrian24]

I feel silly for even being stumped by this, but I bought a tack lot off of eBay for awhile back that included this Edgewood figure 8 noseband, and it is baffling me! No matter how I run the straps through the center piece or arrange it, the buckles and straps near the top will not align correctly (I hope I’m explaining this alright). I have a buckle meeting another buckle and a strap meeting a strap. The only way it doesn’t do this is if a piece is turned inside out (in which the buckle won’t face the right way, of course), or if one strap weirdly overlaps the other, which would be incorrect as well. It doesn’t appear to be a monocrown noseband, plus Edgewood has never made anything monocrown to my knowledge, and this is an older piece.

I have another figure 8 bridle that is extremely simple and the buckles and straps align as they are supposed to. Do I just have to be smarter than the noseband, or what on Earth is going on with this one? It’s very nice and I’d love to put it on a bridle.

[GreyDes]

Could the seller have mixed it up and combined two different bridle parts? The lengths of the sides don’t look even either.

[banmharcach]

Looks like they are a bit asymmetrical : https://marystack.com/edgewood-raised-fancy-stitch-figure-8-cavesson/?sku=057858&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpPnhxJ3u8wIVbAeICR3fdgC_EAQYASABEgJEy_D_BwE

[Equestrian24]

I noticed that and thought it was weird, too! The two pieces match really well, so I wouldn’t think so, but it’s a possibility if they had more than one of the same kind.

[Equestrian24]

I noticed this as well and found it odd. I wasn’t sure if it wasn’t put together right or what, but I tried inserting the one strap that was removable from the center piece in the other direction with no luck.

[banmharcach]

Is one strap stitched in to the centre-disk? It looks like you need the RH strap (facing your photo) to go on the other side so the longer buckled piece attached to a ring will go under the jaw, and the shorter buckle strap goes up the nearside cheek to meet the longer straight strap overhead.

I think it would work if you take the RH strap (longer buckle piece) and feed it in the cross-over from the lower left. Then both rings would be near your sofa back in the picture. If that one is locked in, then switch the shorter-strapped piece so both ring pieces are away from the seat back in your photo.

[Equestrian24]

The other strap can’t slide out due to the buckle on the end (I don’t think the hole in the disc is big enough for it to slide through). I can see if I can manage to get it through!

[ElBe]

I may be way off track, but try - 1. Move the right hand half to the left side 2. And flip it upside down - the part that you have going through the nose pad may (?) be the part that goes over the poll, and connects to the short buckle

[Equestrian24]

If I can get that one out of the disc (the holes in the disc don’t seem quite big enough for the buckle to slide through), I’ll give that a try!

[ElBe]

Swap the sides of the pieces
Blue ends over poll
Yellow ends through nose pad
Red ends under chin

[banmharcach]

I don’t think you need to stretch the centre disk to do that. Pull upper RH side out of disk and feed in from lower left of disk—may have to flip over to get right side facing. Horse’s ears would then be against chair back and nose to the free edge. Both rings should be against chair back but one goes under chin & the other up the side of face.

[Equestrian24]

Thank you, this worked!

[banmharcach]

lower blue end needs to be sent through the nosepad in the other direction–it will link to lower yellow. RH yellow and red need to switch spots with lower blue (what is currently upper yellow should attach to upper blue and red-red is ok)

Scrap this–ElBe has it right (mine would have had a very short crownpiece & humongous lower jaw strap!

[Equestrian24]

Thank you, this worked and it is fixed now!

[banmharcach]

new photo??

[Equestrian24]

Thank you guys for all of your help! This was bugging me like crazy!

[Bristol_Bay]

Thank goodness! This thread was giving me anxiety trying to figure it out. Not baby down the well-level, but I do need a glass of wine now.

[ElBe]

Sweet sweet closure!

I will admit I had the same battle with a new figure eight a month or so ago. it’s pretty satisfying when it finally comes together.

[banmharcach]

yay-congrats!

[beowulf]

This is why I love COTH!! I was thinking it was odd the bottom part of the figure eight was “fastened backwards” but would have never figured out it was upside down too…

So – which COTHer will help me put back together the completely disassembled crank noseband I took apart to give a “pony club cleaning” 10 years ago and still, to this day, have not figured out how it goes back together?

I can put it back together, but there is always a keeper that isn’t fed through, or an extra keeper at the end. Kind of like any time me or SO work on the car, put everything back and find a screw or two in the hood that … hm… where did that go?