Can you explain how a Kimeberwick is a ‘suspended’ bit…not sure I understand…
This is the bit I use:
https://www.amazon.com/Shires-Alloy-…/dp/B018OQL8SE
I measured it and it falls within the legal dimensions of port height. The sweet iron mouthpiece should also be fine. Caveat emptor: I have not actually contacted USDF to confirm this, since I have not attended a recognized show since purchasing it.
Here are the USDF bitting guidelines: https://issuu.com/equestrian/docs/dressagebits
They show several low port Myler bits that may also work for your horse.
FWIW, while I haven’t followed all the back story being dredged up, I could have written your original post. I spent years struggling to get my horse to accept the bit thinking it was a training/rider issue. I tried a low port mullen kimberwick on her and she was like a new horse. Needing her to go in something “legal” for a schooling show, I purchased the Shires bit above and haven’t looked back. She hates any sort of jointed snaffle or straight mullens, but for whatever reason she loves a low port mullen.
It is obvious that everything written in answer to your post of 4/24 has either gone straight over your head or been totally ignored. Despite protestations to the contrary, you are still entirely too focused on his front end, and not enough concerned with his weight, condition, and holes in your education.
Sounds like you need my bits.
Both 100% legal. I promise. I carry a card with a pic of my KK laid out on a ruller + the exact rules for low ports incase a bit checker questions me.
The myler full cheek WITHOUT hooks came from Amira Equi. That’s the only place I could find it w/o the hooks.
Can you work with the local dressage trainer that worked with him previously? Maybe she/he will remember what bit they used with him before or some other insights into how he goes.
Based on what you said, I would be looking for either a mullen of some sort or a small port, possibly in a baucher, although it will likely be easier to find those mouthpieces with a simple egg-butt or loose ring.
On another thread you mentioned that you’ve only had this horse two weeks and he doesn’t have a saddle that fits so you’ve been riding him bareback. To cycle through single joints, french link, happy mouth, rubber D ring, loose ring, eggbutt, roller, and now a ported kimberwicke is a lot in 14 days give or take. Are you switching bits every single ride? Waiting until you have a saddle that has been expertly fitted is a helpful first step. A lot of his resistance could be due to being ridden bareback. After that, it may be helpful to ride him at least a few times in a bit unless he truly cannot tolerate it. With a single ride it can be hard to differentiate between an off day and disliking the bit.
Since he has been out of work for over a year, have you considered putting him in a simple french link and just walking on a loose rein for a few weeks and then slowly integrating trot and eventually canter in 4-6 weeks? He needs a lot of baseline fitness and it may solve a lot of the challenges you are experiencing between this and your other thread.
Careful, I don’t think your Myler is dressage legal in Canada. I think the OP is Canadian. We follow FEI rules, and most Mylers are too narrow in diameter.
I’ve had excellent results with Mullen bits for some horses. I do not like Baucher bits and think they are “gimmicky”. Several Big Name judges I’ve spoken to also dislike them and will even say so on tests.
Agree with others that OP seems not to be what she claims.
If a bit is legal by the rules it is poor form for a judge to comment on it because they “don’t like it.”
Hey, I was just writing down what they said…
I’ve read that said before, and I don’t get it. If my tack is legal, then it does not commenting on on my paper.
Here is a supplement to the USEF rulebook. Be careful that you have the most current versions of the rules since they change. https://www.usef.org/forms-pubs/96D17lSsaCo/annex---bits-saddlery-equipment
"With an unknown past, but I know he spent years with the local very renowned and respected dressage trainer. " I noticed this too. If you know this “renowned” local dressage trainer had him in training for “years,” then it’s a no-brainer to ask that person what bit they used for him.
I, too, have an issue with your contradictory posts. You sound like a little kid claiming to be a trainer. Why do you bother posting questions if you aren’t going to take the advice given?
Can you post video of you riding him, it may help with understanding what stage he is at and what you are feeling to provide better recommendations