Help me pick chickens!

We’ve had great luck raising day-old chicks from the mail, dozens of them over the years…until this last batch. Of the nine we received, only one is still with us - hawks, snakes and the Great Unknown took them out. Very frustrating, but that’s the way it goes sometimes with free ranging.

Of the numerous breeds we’ve had, Jersey Giants are the family’s favorite. Huge hens, a beautiful glossy black with green glints, confident birds and long-lived. We just lost our last one a few months ago and we think she was about eight years old. Consistent layers, too, of large brown eggs.

Speckled Sussex were beautiful and good layers. So were the silver laced Wyandottes. The Marans we got from someone downsizing a flock - they are kinda tatty-looking but they still lay. We were also gifted a buff Orpington who is lovely in all respects.

Our son raised Rhode Island Reds and barred rocks for 4H and none of us liked them too much - you couldn’t tell one hen from another, or at least we couldn’t.

We’ve also had silver and golden phoenix hens for fun - mostly an ornamental breed - and our golden phoenix rooster is a magnificent looking fellow.

The Auracanas had beautiful eggs but were shy-er than the others.

And no to housing your chickens in a horse stall. Chickens are messy with their poop and you don’t want it everywhere. Put their coop elsewhere and you’ll be happier.

As someone mentioned above, chx will quickly learn the routine and go into their coop at dusk on their own. It’s instinctive. BUT, if you’re not around to actually lock up the coop before dark, you’ll end up losing hens because racoons, fox, etc will patrol the coop every night, just to check if maybe tonight’s the night they get lucky.

If you are free-ranging the birds, this constant imminent peril really can complicate your animal care (and animal sitter) routines. So, I installed an automatic coop door that operates at dawn/dusk and it’s been a great investment. When we’re away, my neighbor can check on the animals at whatever time of day she wants, and I can work late or go out with DH without worry.

You do not want them IN your barn. You will want them in a coop.

The thing to remember about chickens is that they are fairly impermanent. What with one thing and another, most hens won’t last five years even if you don’t cull. So it is easy to try different breeds to see what you prefer. Chicken breeds are divisible into several very general categories you may find helpful.

First, commercial layers. These would include Leghorns and hybrids based on them, and all sex-links (1st gen hybrids which can be sexed at birth by color). These include the Star series hens and many others. Many sex-links, because they have a brown-egg-layer parent, are very nice home flock hens, excellent layers, hybrid vigor, and nice personalities. Leghorns are very flighty birds, as are most other Mediterranean breeds (which all lay white eggs). If you like to tame up your chickens, don’t get those. Being very light, they also fly disconcertingly well.

Second, dual-purpose home-flock breeds. These are generally pretty calm, mostly lay a tinted or brown egg. Sussex, Rhode Island Red, Plymouth Rock, Chantecler, Delaware, Black Australorp, are in this category. These all make very good first breeds. They lay well but not generally as well the first group. My personal favorites in this group are Speckled Sussex (very tame and very pretty) and Black Australorp (really excellent layers for a non-commercial breed).

Third, fancy chickens. Few of these are going to lay very well compared to the above. These will be show versions of some of the above, bantams, rare breeds, breeds that lay green, blue, or chocolate eggs, cock-fighting breeds, all sorts of novelty breeds like Crested Polish etc. These can all be fun.

Fourth, meat breeds. Self explanatory. These aren’t gonna lay much.

The advice I always give to newbies: SAFEGUARD YOUR FLOCK. Do it before you get them. Chickens are essentially walking dinners for everything rat sized and up. A night coop needs a concrete floor, and hardware-cloth or aviary netting over windows. Wood will be attacked and eventually chewed through by something. Most newbie chicken keepers give up after continual predation losses.

During the day, the very best fencing is Premier One electrified poultry netting. It is easily moveable, which is good because you will be amazed how quickly hens will destroy all plant and animal life in an enclosed area. Really suggest investing in some.

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I’ve been meaning to get one of these for years. OP, one does have to arrange to have someone home at dark and at dawn to let birds in and out. This can be surprisingly inconvenient at times, so I second this suggestion. Maybe I’ll actually do it myself sometime soon!:o

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Ditto on the no chickens in the stable. Not only do they attract rodents, their poop is dry and forms a dust that gets on everything. You just don’t want chicken poop dust on your tack and hay and horses.

Agreed! @enjoytheride you REALLY don’t want all that chicken crap in your indoor footing :eek:

I’ve got my “boyz club” boys in an extra stall right now and it’s a pain in the butt. Thankfully nothing has come in to eat them (yet) but they do smell despite cleaning. They also crap all over the aisle and are dusty. I’m really looking forward to being done with having them inside!

Runner Ducks, not chickens. http://www.moosemanorfarms.com/about-runner-ducks.html

Neat birds, wonderful eggs, don’t need a pond, eat a lot of bugs and actually like people. If you want to sell the eggs, you’ll get twice the price as chicken eggs.

I know people who train their border collies on Indian Runner ducks - I guess because they have such a strong flocking instinct? They’re pretty.

Do it, I promise you’ll love it. I use this little servo motor:
https://www.amazon.com/Add-Motor-Aut…/dp/B007IZJWNQ
and just built the door myself out of 1/4" plywood, and cut a chicken-sized doorway into the wall. Keep it small, they’ll be fine with an opening the size of a shoebox.

The door lifts up vertically, and to hold the door flush against the opening in the wall I made side tracks out of some old track shelving I had lying around.

It’s a cheap solution and has worked well – I’ve only had to replace the motor once in like 6 years-- and zero break-ins despite a robust racoon population.

Well, we got to be home to bring horses in and turn them out so this isn’t an issue!

Up to you, but thsi is just advice from someone who’s ‘been there’. Generally horse turnout/feeding not strictly confined to daylight hours and most horse owners wouldn’t think twice about feeding an hour or two after dusk, especially in winter. With chickens, you’re rolling the dice for that hour or two. The predators know there are chickens in there and they really do patrol.

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Been there too. When I’ve lost hens en masse (as opposed to one or two being picked off) it was always because someone forgot to close the coop door just before dark. Doesn’t take long at all for a few coyotes to move in and clean you out.

Yes, ducks move rather like sheep (or fish, for that matter).

I’ve kept ducks (for herding practice), never will again. Twice as dirty as chickens, and mean mean mean to each other. Chickens are fine together as long as they have enough room. Ducks will hound the lowest in the hierarchy to death no matter how much room they have. I lost ducks because they were too frightened to be with the other ducks and hid at night so they couldn’t be put with them. Ducks are much more physically fragile than chickens too, surprisingly so.

Possibly ducks are fun to keep if you have a large enough body of water (very large – did I mention they are dirty?).

@Simkie convinced me this spring to get a couple cream legbars. They’re very cute with their little crests, I got them as 7 week old pullets. I also got two barred rock pullets from the same breeder.
I think the barred rocks are beautiful birds, they seem a little braver and friendlier then the legbars, but the rocks are a few weeks older so maybe that’s why.

In the past I’ve had regular sex links that came as a box of 25 chicks so we would have to cull all the cockerels. I didn’t feel like doing that, and I wanted to limit myself to 4-6 hens so I used the power of facebook to find my girls. Next summer I’m hoping to add either two silver or gold laced Wyandottes, or perhaps two double laced barnevelders.

As far as keeping them I’ll add that you’ll probably regret putting them in the barn or arena, etc.
My new coop is raised with an attached run and is built like Fort Knox with hardware cloth over every opening, a skirt buried in the ground, and the whole structure is drilled into some patio slabs. While I would love to let them free range, I don’t trust my dog or my neighbours dog. My solution was to build a 30’ x 50’ pen around the coop so that when I’m home I can let them out to explore a bit more.

I’ll also agree with the sentiment that ducks are very, very dirty and smelly. We got a box of 25 day old ducklings and luckily we got them late enough in the spring that we could build a raft and let them loose in the pond. The mess and smell that 25 cute little ducks could make in a week in a pen was more than gag inducing. They also wasted a ton of food, half of it always seemed to end up in the water or smushed into the raft. Much more expensive then the same number of chickens. They were smart enough to head for the raft if predators showed up, we never lost any, but there were always fox, coyotes, and bears around.

Lots of excellent advice in this thread!

My favorite breeds after ten years of keeping chickens?

Easter Eggers and English Orpingtons.

Orpingtons have lovely temperaments, lay large to jumbo eggs and are very suitable for backyard flocks. Buffs are most common, but I also have blues, black and splash. My Buff Orp roo crossed with a blue orp hen produced beautiful colored babies.

Easter Eggers are just fun to have, and I love putting together a colorful egg carton. Mine are very friendly.

Barred Rocks have very similar qualities to the Orps. I also have some Austrolorps (Australian Orpingtons; essentially a black orp that breeds true on color.)

Breeds to avoid?

California Whites don’t do well in a mixed flock, picked on the other birds. Neither do Sicilian Buttercups - they are beautiful birds, but very skittish, and they’re halfway between a bantam and full sized bird, so mine got picked on in a mixed flock. French Bresse - more popular as a gourmet meat bird, not such a great layer.

@foggybok who lays those pick ones?! I hatched some salmon faverolles hoping for some pinkish layers, but they were all boys :rolleyes:

@GoodTimes SO glad to hear you have some CCLs!! I just love mine <3

FWIW, I think it’s tough to make any sweeping generalizations about Easter Eggers or hatchery Ameraucana (which are just easter eggers, usually) because they can be a cross of any breed. Any blue egg layer + any brown egg layer = easter egger.

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I wish I could tell you, she came with a flock I bought from someone else and we weren’t sure exactly what she was. I’ll try to find a picture…

And good point on Ameraucanas, unless you get real ones (actually Aracaunas), they tend to be cross breds (and that is what most people have…) The ones we got were pretty consistent, but very different than ones I see other people have…

This is so true! I don’t have an autocoop as we don’t have power out there. Unfortunately for me my bedtime in the middle of the summer is still around 9-9:30pm. The ladies kept saying that was too early, “it’s still light out mum! 5 more minutes”. The odd time I would just lock them into their attached run as it’s predator proof and they could put themselves to bed.
And yes, first thing in the morning when I open the door they all try to squeeze out at the same time. Makes me smile every time.

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I’ve had some super nice roosters, but my Jubilee Orp rooster is the quintessential gentleman rooster! I cannot get him to eat a treat, he wants his hens to have all the treats! Really nice birds, and I do love my EEs too!