I can see how this would work, but she is super hyper and goes crazy in her crate - not the greatest thing at work. This is why I started tying her to my chair
Does she have chew toys like oinkies in her crate? I find this can help settle pups.
It sort of sounds like you also have a crate training issue here…
So, does she potty when tied to the chair?
You’re right we have more than one issue here. Right now she is in her crate digging up the blanket and crying. She will settle eventually but it is super distracting. I just took her outside after a nap. She didn’t go, I put her back in her crate for 10 minutes and took her out again. She didn’t go again, so now she is in her crate again having a hissy fit.
My Boxer was taking far too long to housetrain, so I took a urine sample down tot he vet. The day after she finished her a/b’s she was housetrained. Poor thing, just had to go when she had to go.
that’s fine, she is safe in her crate. I like the pick up and carry her in if no pee. I wish I had known that when my pup was younger! do you toss her a “cookie” when she gets into her crate? that’s what I do with my dog, Find your crate and do you want a cookie? the cookie is a piece of his dried food.
For larger pups, some recommend a baby suppository to ‘stimulate things’; but a chi-peke is far too small for that.
Just be consistent. No paws on the ground inside.
She should eat in her crate and have a ‘best toy’ and chew in her crate ONLY: meaning if she wants to play with that toy or work on that chew she has to be in the crate.
Eventually there will be a ‘breakthrough’. Then your own stress level will go down
I have a 9 month old lab pup who has been impossible to reliably housebreak. I have to be super vigilant constantly otherwise she will poop in the house. However, in the morning, she has caught on to she has to poop and pee outside if she wants to come in for breakfast. The rest of the day is spent outside in her kennel with her big “brother” while we’re at work. In the evening she goes out just before bed and has to poop then too.
We tried the bells on the door but she never caught on, however, she has started to whine a bit when she needs to go but not always. I’ve never had a dog this hard to housebreak. My last lab was suffering as a pup from a bladder infection so was always piddling in the house and although she knew she was supposed to go outside, she couldn’t help it. Once that cleared up, it was a breeze.
How long are you spending outside? What do you do? (E.g. walk around, stand still,) What kind of environment is it? (Parking lot, lawn, etc.?)
My dogs/puppies always have accidents when my kids or ex-dh was in charge. They either didn’t watch them closely enough, and/or didn’t take them out for long enough to get their business done. Obviously with you being at work this can be an issue, but it might just be that the puppy needs a little longer before going.
Also, I am careful about access to water and food when potty training. Feeding is carefully measure and scheduled; nothing messes up potty training more than extra food or feeding at different times. My most recent puppy would also drink every time he passed the water bowl, just for something to do. So i did not leave it down 24/7 for him.
If it’s mostly pee accidents, it can’t hurt to have the vet check for UTI or puppy vaginitis. Both will make potty training a lot harder.
Are you giving a super yummy treat and praising when she does go potty outside? Worked wonders for both of my parents terriers.
Well I’m about ready to get rid of the pup. I took her out last night at 11 pm got up at 5 am and took her out, no poop but pee. Come inside and lo and behold, not 1 but 2 piles of shit. I’m done.
Absent a medical issue, house training problems are 100% the human’s fault. If you will not or can not do right by the dog then “getting rid of it” is probably a good idea. Hopefully the new owner will be more committed to the task.
If she doesnt “go” in the crate, then have the crate right by the door. Take her out, if she doesnt go, straight back in the crate. 10 minutes later- try taking her out again. I bet she is just as frustrated as you about what you want her to do and what she is now “trained” to do. Start her on a trigger command when she goes. Once she goes both poo and pee, she is allowed to be in a area that is easy to clean just in case. It takes about 8 weeks of consistent training before that one clicks, but then its done. Dont “walk” with her - take a cup of java and stand, take 1 or 2 steps in one direction so she cant really sit down and be lazy, then 1-2 steps back. Coffee done, go back inside , if she didnt “go”, crate . Her “reward” is to be let loose for awhile. Dont get rid of her just yet - who knows where she ends up next. if she goes hyper in the crate, give her a warning “growl” , if she continues, slap the crate with the flat hand. At first they are scared and dont now WTH is going, thats when I tell them quietly “settle” . They start again, warning, then flat hand slap. They get that point rather quickly. When I have a pup that had a accident, I point to it and growl “baaad” - boy howdy- they hate that one and dont care to get that attention. I wish I could help by taking her for a week or two- wouldnt take longer then that. We have done the potty training for so many pups by now, we lost count. We also like to put a goat bell on a string and hang it on the door- once they are potty trained, they get “bell trained” and learn to ring the bell if they need to go outside- that one is easy.
By 9 months the dog should not have to go out during the night. What time are you feeding and what kind of pre-bedtime exercise regimen do you have?
Maybe reevaluate your feeding/watering/walking schedule. Obviously sometimes it will get mixed up but by and large by 9 months, the dog should be pooping well before bedtime and sleeping through the night. It might be an early morning - mine are all getting up around 5am this time of year, but they go to bed before 10pm.
Tried the bells, she never caught on to it. I’m going to start feeding her dinner earlier and crating for the night. She’s good in the crate and won’t go in there so it’s going back to square one.
Pup needs to sleep in the crate every night.
Your first post was on the 1st May.
Have you been consistent about keeping her crated or outside only, not tied to your chair for convenience?
Or worse, loose in the house?
Treated and praised for potty?
Kept a strict feeding and water schedule that ends not too late at night?
I didn’t think so.
Roll a newspaper and hit yourself over the head “BAddd Trainer!!”
It isn’t the pup’s fault.
Your frustration is understandable. But you need to work at it better.
The only way I have ever known it to work is if you either crate the dog or tether the dog to you except when it has (1) just gone and (2) you are paying 100% attention. It’s your job to see that it’s time and take the dog out before the accident happens inside. If you throw yourself into it fully, it shouldn’t take long but it’s not something you can do part time (or while you’re also trying to work) because then you can’t be vigilant enough to catch the dog before the accident happens. You have to learn to see the signs and be quick enough to get the dog out immediately. Then praise praise praise. If the dog has an “accident” inside it reinforces the behavior and it’s 100% your fault because you didn’t set the dog up for success. I don’t know that you can do this alone if you’re also distracted/busy. It’s tough!
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This is some of the worst and slightly abusive potty training advice I’ve heard in a while.
Please don’t slap her crate with your hand or growl at your puppy. Also don’t punish for accidents, it’s the humans fault not the dogs.
I agree.
I have slapped my dogs’ crates before - but they are adults and they are crate trained, and it was never about having to go to the bathroom.
There is a time and place for discipline - potty training is not it.
Routine, routine, routine. That’s what is needed. Down to feeding the same amount at the same time each day, and possibly picking up water dishes if a puppy is an obsessive drinker. Many puppies/dogs are also “motion activated poopers” - they are unlikely to go if they are just brought outside to stand in one place.
This is not a hard job, just a tedious one. No rocket science or growling required. Just vigilance and patience.
I wish people could see this from the dog’s perspective. If you haven’t gotten the point across that you want them to relieve themselves outside which you obviously haven’t if you are complaining about lack of house training on this thread, the dog has no idea what you want. Therefore they have no idea what you are growling or smacking the crate or whatever about. You are just some weirdo that acts all lovey then goes nuts for no apparent reason. Then people wonder why they have an anxious dog, their whole world is an unpredictable mess.
Thank you for the criticism- it worked for 40+ years now and none of the dogs came out traumatized or scared. Its aso not done all the time or “just for the heck of it” and I always stressed to our volunteers not to do it unless absolutely necessary and you HAVE to give a warning