I am curious to try the single jointed version on my horse- have only ever ridden him in double jointed bits.
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I am curious to try the single jointed version on my horse- have only ever ridden him in double jointed bits.[/QUOTE]
I use a single jointed Novocontact on my mare. She is more fussy and will grind teeth in a french link. She is quiet and accepting of this bit.
It really does take experimentation to see what is best for a particular horse. I am used to using french links (with a bean), but she gave a very clear āNo!ā when I tried.
an update from me: still super pleased with the single joint eggbutt on my boy.
he is contact shy and wants to curl up very BTV by nature(previously in a neue schule turtle top and then a nathe snaffle) but in this he takes the neck out and is confident in the hand. He has a very average mouth, reasonable room and normal not flashy tongue (KWPN).
I have a brand new Neue Schule verbindend bradoon, 12mm, 5-1/2 for sale, never used (too narrow for my horse). PM me if interested.
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I just received the double jointed Herm Sprenger Novocontact 16MM loose ring bit on Saturday and my horse really likes it. He is normally really fussy in the mouth (lip flapper) [/QUOTE]
INorMrEd - my five year old is a lip flapper too! He also goes behind the vertical quite easily so Iāve been happy with him if his nose is slightly poked out and heās taking contact. Though, now weāre working a bit on him bracing on the left rein. Do you mind my asking what you were going in before? Iām in an HS sensogen dynamic eggbutt (for stability vs the loose ring) and I wonder if there will be enough of a difference in the novocontact to notice?
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Iāve tried just a plain single jointed eggbutt, and he absolutely wanted nothing to do with that.
It isnāt perfect, and Iām not sure there is such a thing out there for him. But it makes me wonder if there is something else I could try that might be better than the novocontact (single joint, loose ring)? Myler? Neue Schule? any ideas?[/QUOTE]
Are all the bits youāve tried from the novocontact line? Have you tried a different mm? Or tried sprengerās usual augurian? My guy is a chomper too - eats everything in site. (coincidentally - have you found any toys that yours will chew on? Everything seems to be for licking or nosing and he just wants to chew)
My guy goes btv at times, leans on one rein at other times, and when heās tired (heās a bit undermuscled for his size and age - working on it!) heāll start flapping his mouth more and occasionally grinding. I canāt really tell if heās chewing the bit or grinding his teeth. Iāve been using GumBits before the ride and that does seem to help. Also, Iām sure youāve had the dentist out but mine had some super sharp fangs and rubs in his mouth the first time I had the dentist out so theyāre on an every four months schedule now.
Iāve run the same questions with mine; does he hate his bridle? Saddle fit? Or is it just the bit? I hate that Iām turning into one of those people that tries a million gizmos but Iām pretty convinced there is the āperfect unicornā setup out there somewhere. With bitting unfortunately I think you just have to try try try until you find the one that your horse likes. Perhaps try one of the rental places or borrow from someone in the barn to see if he prefers anything else? Good luck!
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INorMrEd - my five year old is a lip flapper too! He also goes behind the vertical quite easily so Iāve been happy with him if his nose is slightly poked out and heās taking contact. Though, now weāre working a bit on him bracing on the left rein. Do you mind my asking what you were going in before? Iām in an HS sensogen dynamic eggbutt (for stability vs the loose ring) and I wonder if there will be enough of a difference in the novocontact to notice?[/QUOTE]
Hi there! The bit I was using before the Novacontact was a Myler Level 1 loose ring.
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INorMrEd - my five year old is a lip flapper too! He also goes behind the vertical quite easily so Iāve been happy with him if his nose is slightly poked out and heās taking contact. Though, now weāre working a bit on him bracing on the left rein. Do you mind my asking what you were going in before? Iām in an HS sensogen dynamic eggbutt (for stability vs the loose ring) and I wonder if there will be enough of a difference in the novocontact to notice?[/QUOTE]
Hi there! The bit I was using before the Novacontact was a Myler Level 1 loose ring.
I have now switched to this jointed berry loose ring snaffle
http://www.farmhousetack.com/jointed-berry-loose-ring-snaffle/
as the Novacontact bit turned out to be a size too large and in the end made Vinnie even more fussy in the mouth.
Welllllllā¦ I did end up trying a couple of different things: a myler with a wide/low port, and a Neue Scheule verbindend. Initially the Myler was great (took us a few different ones to land on the best option, which was wide/low port). That immediately helped a lot of the issue. Except that over time, he got heavier and heavier on the bit. Transitions and such helped lighten him, but he started going down a whole different road with wanting to bear down on it. So on a whim I tried the Neue Scheule Verbindend bradoon (12 mm) and voila - that seems to be the happiest of mediums (right now).
We also had his saddle reflocked, and heās been getting in shape being turned out on our hilly pastures - Iāve seen positive improvements with the entire combination of changes. Does he still chomp/grind? Yes he has done it mildly a few times, but he drops it quickly. He is also much better to take up contact and stay there, without leaning down or diving behind. So for now, NS is the winner.
Like you, I do believe there is some magical combination for him, and I think it might evolve over time, as it has shown to so far. I donāt think tack alone solves the issues, because I do believe and have seen improvements addressing the training issues regardless of what bit or saddle heās working in. But using tack heās comfortable in has allowed us to open the door and keep the door open to address the training issues. Having the best tools for the job helps, but is not the solution in and of itself.
Question, my mare now is going better in a KK double loose ring, when I try the single jointed bits she throws her head up. After reading the comments it sound like she would prefer the novocontact in a single joint because she is very sensitive and barely comes into the contact.
I have a single joint Novocontact, 5", that Iām selling. Just doesnāt work for my boy. PM me if interested!
bumping this thread. I just moved a horse from a Nathe to the Single joint and there is little difference other than he is āmouthierā with the Novocontact. Iāve tried it with another horse/pony who seems to do well in it.
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Bringing this back up, I have a horse that currently goes in a KK Dynamic and is generally quite respectfulā¦until heās not ā¦ I can generally get him back by schooling lots of transitions and getting him back and light in front. He schools 3rd and some 4th level work. He also goes in a double, but I prefer riding in the snaffle as I have better ability to supple him through his work. Iāve on and off thought about trying the double jointed novocontact on him to see if that might be the answer for him. Does anyone have a horse similar that has tried this bit with success? Secondlyā¦anyone have one they might want to sell. Need a 5 3/4" and would need to have shipped to Canada. Thank you.
Does anyone have experience with this with young, green OTTBs? I have one who is just doing ground work (learning to lunge etc) but will go to be restarted in September. He is very fussy and chews on the bit a lot. Thoughts?
I use a single joint eggbutt Novocontact for my very mouthy OTTB. He likes it better than anything else I have tried āmulti joints, Duo, Mullen, etc.
my QH mare has a steadier mouth and she goes in the double jointed loose ring one. I really like how comfy both horses are in this style (I also have an RS Dynamic and KK ultra and a few mylersākind of a bit junkieābut both horses are now in the Novocontacts.
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It will depend a lot on his mouth shape. They are nice bits, and make it pretty clear when contact is āacceptableā or not to a greenie thanks to a slight ridge. If, like a lot of young tbs, he is uncomfortable with feeling the bit moving in his mouth, he may like the eggbutt version. However, if, also like a lot of tbs, he has a very small pallet and not a lot of room in his mouth, this bit may simply be too big to be comfortable.
If he has a small pallet, you may want to look into a regular herm sprenger kk; or something in the thinner neue schule line.
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Bumping this thread in case anyone is selling a 5" single joint eggbutt 
