He's MINE, not yours!

No it wouldnt bother me a bit in casual use or conversation…

It would only bother me if say …
Horse got injured & nobody was @ the barn but a couple customers. Customers had no idea of true owners identity. Customers then contact “lease girl” who is so possessive she takes it into her own hands to decide horses fate. Hopefully not likely to happen ! Probably not going to happen !

I guess as owner on “some level” I would appreciate to be given credit as the actual owner. Any new lesson person may be a potential lease client down the road. Also if she posts pictures from horse shows I would think it odd if she DOESNT credit the (owners/photographer/horse/rider/etc). I think @ some point I might find it disrespectful if she plastered a bunch of show photos & credited everyone but horse owners. As an owner I may have my own interests to protect - especially if I REALLY needed the lease monies coming. I would want ALL potential clients to be aware that my boy would be available for future lease. But from a stand point that she just casually called him “her boy” - I would just think that normal horsey girl talk & wouldn’t take any offense.

Maybe horse owner or friend could take it upon herself to create a "Barn Newsletter & Blog ? A blog would clarify all odds n ends :slight_smile: Something like that might actually be appreciated & well received. BO/BM seldom have time to sit down create something like that.

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I leased (paid for, rode and cared for) a dressage horse a few years back. The trainer told me, “He’s your horse now, treat him as such.” There was never any dispute that when the official owner came over to ride or see him, she was indeed the owner. No disputes, no jealousy, no problems or disputes. We all had a blast and I afforded her the opportunity to keep this well-cared-for animal while her work schedule and career (she was an LAPD police officer) became all-consuming. If your leasing party calls the horse ‘hers,’ let it go and be glad the horse is getting good care and support. She knows she’s not the owner.’ :winkgrin:

Professional jockeys refer to the horse they’re riding in a race as “my horse” all the time. I’m quite sure they and everyone else knows they don’t own the horse.

I am with the people who see nothing wrong with it. When people lease a car, they call it their car. When the rent an apartment, they call it their apartment. I really don’t see a difference in the logic.

Heck, I call the schoolies I ride “My boy/girl” all the time. The BO doesn’t seem to mind - it’s not like I REALLY think they’re mine, and I’m sure the leaser doesn’t think that either, so why care?

Some people are so overly sensitive about rather silly things.

Over the years, I have referred to horses I’ve had a connection with, whether I leased, groomed, schooled, owned, or just loved, as “mine.” “How’s my boy/girl?” Hell. I do that with friends DOGS. It’s a term endearment. It means they have a place in my heart. Simple. Relax.

It’s her horse, not her husband. :wink:

It’s probably just easier to type “Look at my horse” or “I rode my horse today” than “Look at the horse I lease” and “I rode the horse I lease today.”

I don’t know the terms of the lease agreement, but if I was leasing a horse under NORMAL terms, you are darn scootin’ I would call it ‘mine’.

I would be paying 1/3 of its purchase price (ie, buying a horse for a period of time), paying for its vet, farrier, feed, supplements, boarding, etc. I would also be paying to show it, transport it, and care for it at shows. All of this for the announcer to say ‘ridden by X, owned by XY’. At this point, you “own” the horse but I would literally be paying for EVERYTHING and your name would only come up on papers. I better at least get to call the horse “mine” at this point, while I am taking care of it for you (and paying you for it at that matter!).

I call horses “mine” that aren’t even close to being mine. I will go up to my BO’s snuggly TB and call him ‘my edward’. She is not offended. Your friend is not offended. You are offended. Let the person who is fronting all the bills and taking money/stress off your friends hands, call the horse her own (while she practically owns it).

I dont see what the big deal is and why this would irriatate you.
When a person leases a car they say “my car”.

When a peraon leases an apartment they say “my apartment”.

I agree. When I took lessons on trainer horses, I would walk in the barn and call out “Where’s my boy? There you are! Just standin there waitin for your best girl. I knew it.” A half lease? I am paying to more than just ride the horse half or part of the time - he’s mine when I’m with him, its a girl thing. Its part of owning a special relationship.

Even if I break up with a guy, he’s still “my” ex-boyfriend. There are grades and shades of “my” and “mine” and if a young person gets to have a horse or even part of a horse for a period of time, and taste ownership, she can indulge herself and call it hers, in my point of view.

I seriously doubt she believes she owns the horse. Its her pony for the summer, or for the day, or for the part of the week, so if I were the friend of the OP, I would tell the OP to back off, never mind that she should mind her own business.

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Some people are so overly sensitive about rather silly things.

Over the years, I have referred to horses I’ve had a connection with, whether I leased, groomed, schooled, owned, or just loved, as “mine.” “How’s my boy/girl?” Hell. I do that with friends DOGS. It’s a term endearment. It means they have a place in my heart. Simple. Relax.[/QUOTE]

^^^^ This. Seriously- the leaser is 16 - how old is the owner? And since OP is NOT the owner, grow up and get over it.

I’ve half leased out my horse a few times and if the worst problem is the lessee referring to the horse as “theirs”, life is pretty good.

Does the lessee ride the horse when he feels off?

Does she neglect to communicate any issues she has with him?

Does she let all her friends ride the horse?

No? There are a million other problems that could go wrong with a half lease.

As they say, don’t sweat the small stuff.

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^^^^ This. Seriously- the leaser is 16 - how old is the owner? And since OP is NOT the owner, grow up and get over it.[/QUOTE]

I don’t even think age is a factor.

It’s like when you rent/lease a house. You will tell your friends - “Let’s go back to my house and have dinner.” Same difference here.

I would only be concerned if someone wanted to use it as a ruse to lure others into thinking that the person has power to make decisions for the horse without owner’s knowledge/consent.

My Father had a tenant like that once. After he moved out, we found out that all the neighbors thought that he was the homeowner because he kept telling them so.

If the owner is okay with the terminology and nothing nefarious is going on, then no big deal.

I would consider it more of a term of endearment than of possession. When I worked in a boarding/lesson barn, I called all of the horses “mine”. People who had half-leases called the horse in question theirs. Owners loved it when they found a person who loved their horse so much.

As an owner, it would bother me a little bit, but certainly not enough to bring up. And if it’s not your horse and the owner doesn’t care, I wouldn’t worry about it. :wink:

I’m leasing my TB mare out, and am friends with her leassor on FB. She always posts things like “I’ve turned her into such a great horse.” Which bothers a bit since I like to think she was pretty great before too, but I usually just brush it off.

I’ve part leased my horses a few times. It never bothered me when people called them their own; it did bother me when they made ownership-type decisions that were outside the scope of their lease.

Certainly, there are lessors who come to feel that your horse is theirs – it depends on your personality how much it bothers you. I understand how it can become irritating, even though it is great that they care so much for the horse. I doubt they do it on purpose.

I would not get bothered by someone elses horse/lease situation.

I half leased out my horse once. I didn’t mind in the least that the lessee called him “hers.” It indicated to me that she had an affection and relationship with the horse that meant she would take good care of him.

Maybe this is the only way for your friend’s lessee to EVER have that kind of a relationship with a horse - why rain on her parade? :confused:

If the horse’s owner doesn’t care, I wouldn’t worry about it yourself.

Sounds like the half leaser might be a teenager? That’s pretty common from what I’ve seen, in a barn with a number of part leasing teens. It doesn’t mean anything, they know the horse isn’t theirs, they are just very attached to it, and showing off for their friends a bit, maybe.

If owner is an adult and leaser is a teen, it may be appropriate to cut the teen some slack. If both parties are adults, then there may be cause for irritation, as an adult should be in a position to be sensitive to the owner’s feelings. Still not a big deal, though, unless the leaser takes “my horse” too seriously and is trying to make decisions that should be left to the owner.

Wouldn’t bother me. My one pony has a TON of people adults and kids that call him their boy or their super pony. I just say that he is amazing so he owns a ton of people :wink:

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I would rather her feel so much love for the horse she calls it ‘my horse’ rather than being meh about the horse and calling it ‘this horse’ or something.
I HIGHLY doubt that she is literally trying to imply that she now thinks she owns the horse.[/QUOTE]
This is my feelings too.
What a blessing that your friend found someone to lease that enjoys this horse so much.