Hind leg locked in forward position

Has anyone ever seen a horse back up and get one of its hind legs stuck up under its belly, much like a locked stifle, but in a forward position, not backward? Leg was extended straight, not with hock or stifle articulated.

Not stringhalt, and not a typical presentation of locked stifles either because the leg is locked forward, not towards the back with the toe dragging. Leg unlocked after horse hopped around for a second and the locking was not repeated.

(PS - Yes, the vet has been called and horse will be seen. Just looking for other experiences in the meantime.)Schedule

Yes. Sticky stifles. I have one that does it. It seems to be because of his arthritic hocks. He gets his hocks injected and it all gets better.

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YES!! I have a horse that does this and have looked everywhere for information. My vet diagnosed as UFP, but it has always been odd to me that he locks forwards and not backwards. Please let me know what your vet finds, I would like to compare notes/ideas. BTW, I have had this horse for 5+ years and what words best for him has been a run in and lots of turnout.

Feel free to PM me for more info on treatments we’ve done and how they’ve worked.

Edit: I’ve also done x rays with no sign of arthritis.

The couple of locking stifles that I’ve dealt with have locked forward, not backward. I don’t think it’s particularly odd to do so in that direction.

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^ ditto

Locking forward during backing up is a common presentation of UFP. I have seen more horses lock forward, than lock (extending)backwards.

I have a horse whose leg is locking forward as well. It has actually locked more since we have increased his exercise program (hills, cavalettis, backing, etc) He came to me basically unable to canter on a circle-straight line is fine. He jumps the moon and is not ‘off’ at all. Hanoverian/Welsh cross. He can hold a right lead canter on a circle but swaps out / seems uncomfortable to the left. Rests his left hind more so than right and left hind is the one that locks in forward position. He is out 12 hrs / stalled 12 hrs daily. X rays of hocks and stifle are clean. Has anyone had a similar experience? What did you try? What worked and what didn’t? Any info that I can share that would be helpful?

My TB’s stifles stick forward when they get stuck. His is mostly a problem in the barn - tight turns in the barn aisle, occasionally when shifting to pick up a hind foot, etc. - and is noticeably worse if he is out of shape. Although the traditional wisdom I had heard for a locking stifle was to back the horse up, for him he has to move forward to unstick it. Fortunately his typically do just stick rather than truly lock, so he can just walk out of it.

Yup! I dealt with that for the longest time. Pony (fjord) is as most ponies tend to be, just a bit less angulation through the stifle than the anywhere horse.

It wasn’t bad, and he never locked up, mostly it was that flat tire feeling. But add his fitness progressed, things got worse before they got better. That’s perfectly normal, you are building up all the muscles that help support the stifles, and the obvious outcome of that program is that the muscle groups are tired and sore before they become strong and supple. Also, that loss of stability (slipping) in the stifle is not comfortable for the pony, and in the beginning, you need to do more work. More work = more instances of UFP. The more this happens, the more the stifle becomes inflamed and sore while you are increasing fitness. You get caught in a little bit of a vicious cycle before you come out on the other side. I usually give bute (1gr pm) when I feel like I’m dealing with a little bit more discomfort than just muscle soreness.

But the part that surprised me was how MUCH fitness it took for my pony. He was doing lower level CDEs and 1st level dressage, so a) he was FIT going up and down hills and b) he was schooling collected trot/canter. There was a lot less of it, but it was still shows up mildly in once or twice in a ride.

As he went into his intermediate cde season I added estradiol cypoate to the mix and that worked wonders for him (worked better than injecting his stifles) although who knows if it had much effect after the first few injections, because at that point his fitness level was exceptional and he was well along in collection work, so at the very least, it was a combination of both. By this time last year he was solid in second level, mostly solid in third and preparing for his FEI CDE divisions in winter, so I discounted the estrogen in early summer. He’s been absolutely fine since then with the only flat tire instances happening when he is bone tired, typically the second day after a CDE (day after is an off day, but the next day is just a long walk day).

I will say that as a former hj person, who took fitness a lot more seriously than many of my fellow competitors, since I’ve started combined driving I realize I only thought I took fitness seriously before.

This sounds more like UFP to me, as others have commented - but just so it’s on the radar as well, “shivers.” Not brr I’m cold shivers, but the neuro issue shivers. If the horse abducted the hind limb when this was observed, I would consider shivers more strongly. It is more common in geldings and tall horses (height/length of nerve fibers is thought to be a factor).

Yes, it’s UFP, but no, that’s not anything like Shivers.

Shivers happens usually when the horse is backed up, and the symptom is the hind leg is held in a very flexed state, often also held away from the body. That would never be mistaken for a locked stifle, where the leg is locked in a very extended state (forward or backward)

Has it worsened with age or just with lapses in conditioning? My guy seems to prefer to walk out of it than back out if it. Did you have any challenges getting him to canter on a circle?

My guy also prefers to walk out of it - trying to back him just makes it stick harder.

He does have a little more trouble behind now that he’s older, but the vet says it’s due more to the hock arthritis than the stifle. The stifle was not good when he was on stall rest for a tendon injury though - it definitely helps for him to be in work.

I’ve never had trouble with him cantering on a circle - as a 5yo he was cantering 10m circles on the longe line (not intentionally - I was working on voice commands and gradually making the circle smaller trying to get him to trot, and he just happily kept cantering on the smaller circle). His canter has always been better than his trot.

Thank you for the feedback!