Hocks, Stifles, Hips, oh my

So my gelding continues to be lame. We are waiting on an appointment with the best diagnostician in the area, in the meantime, who wants to place wagers with me?

What I know. He looks like crap at the trot and the canter. Whichever hind is on the outside looks lame, but the right is worse and he has a right hip hike. We blocked from the fetlock down with a 4-way and then from the suspensory origin on both hinds, one at a time. None of them made a noticeable difference. Then he reacted to the 4-way on the right hind and we’ve been screwing around with a fat leg for 10 days.

Of note, flexions didn’t obviously point to hocks or stifles. He didn’t present as sore or stuck in his SI. No heat or swelling in hocks or stifles. Backs up evenly. Will pick up and hold both hind feet and will stretch them behind when asked. That said, he’d really like you to give him the right one back.

He doesn’t want his right hip touched - either at the point of hip, or back at the head of the femur / greater trochanter area. This is different left to right. When allowed to canter on the lunge he repeatedly (every circle or two) kicks out behind, more on the right lead than the left. This is not normal for him.

He’s weight bearing on both hinds. He has been annoyed by the farrier the past few appointments, and when consulted post blocking (he pulled a front shoe) farrier says he’s leaning more than he used to. If I were judging based on how he stands and moves, I’d be betting on hocks (wants his toes down in the dirt and the shavings, kind of snappy, a bit stabby behind), but I don’t think it’s the whole issue.

He did slip and fall in the pasture on his right hip last summer. After that he needed chiro and we ended up injecting his lower hocks a month or so later (no x-rays, it had helped 15 months before that so we did it again).

editing to add: he’s been maybe a bit slow to warm up and stiff bending to the left most of the winter, but wasn’t obviously off. This became pretty acute and easy to see after it snowed and I was dumb enough to let him be outside in it while I cleaned stalls multiple days in a row. It is entirely possible he slipped or fell when I wasn’t watching.

I read every COTH and H&H thread I could find about hip issues and trochanteric bursitis sounds like a real possibility, though he’s clearly not equally bilaterally sore.

If you’ve had a horse with hip issues (not SI, but hip) such as trochanteric bursitis, arthritis, or a fracture, how did it look different from a stifle or hock issue? How did the horse react to palpation or trigger point pressure of various places?

I know one who must have had a fall or something. Looked more like stifle for a long time. Appear d to even block to stifle, but treating stifle did nothing. Wound up bone scanning and the hip was really hot. So they did some more imaging and then ultrasound guided injections. Looks like he must have also screwed up lower neck in the process as there was some improvement from treating the hip, but he was still NQR which presented as bucking especially in canter. Did another bone scan (first one was hind end only, as lameness seemed to be behind), and found the neck.

Given all that you have described, I wouldn’t rule out SI either. My horse flexed fine, palpated fine, and even bone scanned fine in the SI, but SI was a major problem. Sort of switching bilateral, reluctance to canter and kicking out at canter. Eventually started more of a bunny hop type canter before kicking out. A little bit worse in the hip and pelvis region on one side than the other.

Was he kicked or has he fallen? This sounds more like a broken pelvis or something torn in that area.

Yes, he fell in the pasture last summer - I saw it happen. He wasn’t significantly lame after that, just uncomfortable. That was 8 months ago. He was out in the snow 6 weeks ago. May have slipped, but I don’t think he fell. But he may have. This started, or at least became more, after the snow.

Also, to clarify, when I say he doesn’t want his hip or point of hip touched, what I mean is that he doesn’t want pressure applied to them. I can touch him and brush the areas but if you apply pressure he moves away. From behind the muscling appears symmetrical as do his hips and SI.

My old horse had a right stifle and right hip problem. I ended up retiring him.

Of course at the time, I was fresh out of school (and broke!) and didn’t do any extra testing. But the vet , very respected vet, did not recommend that I do anything extra. He advised to retire him which is what I did. Looking back now, I wonder if there could have been anything else I could have done for him.

I think he started off with having a stifle problem that progressed to a hip problem. If my memory serves me, his affected hip was much lower than the other. He had great difficulty trotting.

Based on what you describe, it’s vsry possible you could have numerous joints affected. Or, secondary soreness that is created by the primary soreness.

At the least, I’d redo X-rays of the hock and stifle, just to check. (Im kinda paranoid about those areas!)

Lameness just plain sucks. Keep us posted and good luck!

I have had a fractured hip and pelvis, very long road. I think we started off with a hairline fracture because she looked unsound but not gravely so and then she got significantly worse after a day or so.

“Communitive fracture of acetabular rim and pubis of left hemipelvis. Fracture was visible with transrectal ultrasound but they could not confirm if the fracture was articular as well. A large hemotoma was visible and associated with the fracture site. Fracture was minimally displaced.” Hospital got lucky with an x-ray and saw it there first but the ultrasound was by far the best way to see it.

Horse is sound and back to normal work except for height of jumps but that’s my decision.

Ive seen one with a broken pelvis and in that one the horse could hardly move, found walking very difficult, it was immediately very obvious something was extremely seriously wrong.
Ive had a wobbler (neck compression) show up in the hind end, and SI.
If its bilateral I dont think its the highest liklihood to be hip. These days if I was presented with issues like you describe I would jump straight to bone scan if you can, its likely to be cheaper in the long run.