Homemade Hoof Hardener?

[Xanthoria]

@Tom Bloomer;6520788

How does one relate politely to a repugnant idea like putting gasoline on a horse’s feet as a hoof hardener?

Here’s a script for you:

“Putting gasoline on a horse’s feet as a hoof hardener is not a good idea because (insert reasoning)”

Now wasn’t that easy? :winkgrin:

If you can though take a step back and see that for the average person, Venice Turpentine, formaldehyde and Stockholm tar and so on are all basically “nasty chemicals” and there’s no huge distinction between them.

You sure wouldn’t eat any of them, and getting most of them on your skin is reason to run to wash it off. So why is it OK to paint formaldehyde on a horse’s feet, a known carcinogen, and not gasoline? Why Venice Turps, very toxic and highly flammable, and not gasoline? Stockholm tar, often laced with carcinogenic creosote?

And why is there a need to belittle someone for not knowing why one is OK and another not, if it’s even true?

[GraceLikeRain]

^ well said.

[Tom_Bloomer]

[QUOTE=Xanthoria;6521240]
. . .
If you can though take a step back and see that for the average person, Venice Turpentine, formaldehyde and Stockholm tar and so on are all basically “nasty chemicals” and there’s no huge distinction between them. [/QUOTE]All of the items you listed above are in commercial use by professionals and have been for a very long time thus making them by definition NOT “home remedies.”

And why is there a need to belittle someone for not knowing why one is OK and another not, if it’s even true?
You’re doing a good job belittling yourself by deliberately twisting my words while at the same time trying to derail this thread into being about about commercial products used in the hoof care industry instead of “home remedies.”

If you want to know about the commercial products, that information is readily available on the web sites of the various product vendors. Are you so lazy that you need someone to read it to you, summarize, and explain it instead of looking it up yourself? Why would I do that. You can’t even keep what I have already said on this thread straight.

[Xanthoria]

@Tom Bloomer;6521331

All of the items you listed above are in commercial use by professionals and have been for a very long time thus making them by definition NOT “home remedies.”

Not true. You can buy Venice Turps, pine tar, formaldehyde, gasoline, Kopprtox and Keratex all over the place - retail, in person, online, you name it. I just did a Google so it must be true! :lol: And they have long been used as home remedies. They’re marketed that way.

And come to think of it nowhere in my posts did I mention home remedies or what bearing that has on this discussion at all - just pointing that out. Because I don’t think it matters if you or anyone else wants to classify home vs pro remedies. The point of my replies was “can’t you please be more polite?”

[quote=Tom Bloomer;6521331]You’re doing a good job belittling yourself by deliberately twisting my words while at the same time trying to derail this thread into being about about commercial products used in the hoof care industry instead of “home remedies.”
[/quote]

Oops. Nope. Not me. Read more carefully please. And see above.

[quote=Tom Bloomer;6521331]Are you so lazy that you need someone to read it to you, summarize, and explain it instead of looking it up yourself? Why would I do that. You can’t even keep what I have already said on this thread straight.
[/quote]

Are you so lazy you can’t reply with quotes correctly to the correct people? :lol:

I know you don’t like to admit being wrong, and dislike being told you’re unnecessarily unkind, because it happens somewhat regularly to both you guys. So I fully expect you’ll come back with all sorts of daggers, but oh well. Can’t teach an old dog new tricks eh?

[SwampYankee]

[QUOTE=Pippigirl;6520513]
Jesus!! glacial acetic acid?!!? Lead ethyl?!!? Good luck mixing this lot up!

People would really put gas on their horses feet???[/QUOTE]

I know a Jamaican groom who not only put it on them, he lit it on fire!

[Tom_Bloomer]

[QUOTE=Xanthoria;6521354]
Not true. You can buy Venice Turps, pine tar, formaldehyde, gasoline, Kopprtox and Keratex all over the place - retail, in person, online, you name it.[/QUOTE]Indeed, but you won’t find gasoline sold as topical hoof care product.

I just did a Google so it must be true! :lol: And they have long been used as home remedies. They’re marketed that way.
“marketed” and “home remedy” as you have used it is an oxymoron.

And come to think of it nowhere in my posts did I mention home remedies or what bearing that has on this discussion at all - just pointing that out.
Um, when you get around to it, read the title of this thread and the original post.

Because I don’t think
Should have stopped right there.

it matters if you or anyone else wants to classify home vs pro remedies.
I think you’ve disrespected the OP enough in this thread.

The point of my replies was “can’t you please be more polite?”
You twist my words. You insult the OP. You make up lies, and now you want me to be polite.

I know you don’t like to admit being wrong, and dislike being told you’re unnecessarily unkind, because it happens somewhat regularly to both you guys.
I dislike liars and I don’t feel compelled to be polite when a liar twists my words.

So I fully expect you’ll come back with all sorts of daggers, but oh well. Can’t teach an old dog new tricks eh?
I come back with the truth. If that offends you, then stop lying.

[GraceLikeRain]

[QUOTE=Tom Bloomer;6521388]

You twist my words. You insult the OP. You make up lies, and now you want me to be polite.

I dislike liars and I don’t feel compelled to be polite when a liar twists my words.

I come back with the truth. If that offends you, then stop lying.[/QUOTE]

Oh Tom. Instead of derailing this thread by calling other posters liars. Why not use the ignore button or take your problem to private message? I have no desire to read your childish histrionic responses that are 100% off topic.

The OP asked “Anyone have any suggestions for homemade hoof hardener?” If in all of your years Tom you have never heard of a single homemade recipe then what do you have to add to this thread? The OP never asked about efficacy or whether a homemade recipe was superior to a marketed product.

At the OP: I’ve never use a homemade hoof hardener but over the years I’ve overheard the following “recipes”

1 part neatsfoot oil, and 1 part venice of turpentine
cod oil
old motor oil
bacon grease
pine tar and something called “nunns black oil”
bleach followed by grease

I won’t comment on the potential efficacy of any of these “recipes” but those are a few off the off-the-wall suggestions I’ve heard over the years.

Most people turn to durasole or keritex but it’s interesting to hear what people have used in the past and what a handful of people still use today.

[jjgg24]

[QUOTE=GraceLikeRain;6521490]
Oh Tom. Instead of derailing this thread by calling other posters liars. Why not use the ignore button or take your problem to private message? I have no desire to read your childish histrionic responses that are 100% off topic.

The OP asked “Anyone have any suggestions for homemade hoof hardener?” If in all of your years Tom you have never heard of a single homemade recipe then what do you have to add to this thread? The OP never asked about efficacy or whether a homemade recipe was superior to a marketed product.

At the OP: I’ve never use a homemade hoof hardener but over the years I’ve overheard the following “recipes”

1 part neatsfoot oil, and 1 part venice of turpentine
cod oil
old motor oil
bacon grease
pine tar and something called “nunns black oil”
bleach followed by grease

I won’t comment on the potential efficacy of any of these “recipes” but those are a few off the off-the-wall suggestions I’ve heard over the years.

Most people turn to durasole or keritex but it’s interesting to hear what people have used in the past and what a handful of people still use today.[/QUOTE]

Thanks I find that very interesting!

[Tom_Bloomer]

[QUOTE=GraceLikeRain;6521490]
I have no desire to read your childish histrionic responses that are 100% off topic.[/QUOTE]
Fortunately I haven’t provided any responses that meet your stated criteria. And I hope you do realize that no one can force you to read anything you have no desire to read.

[Xanthoria]

@Tom Bloomer;6521388

You twist my words. You insult the OP.

Ring ring

“Kettle speaking…”

“Oh hi, this is pot. You’re black.”

Click

:lol:

[ET_s_Home]

[QUOTE=Xanthoria;6521527]
Ring ring

“Kettle speaking…”

“Oh hi, this is pot. You’re black.”

Click

:lol:[/QUOTE]

Don’t bother, there is no one home on that line. OP seems to have moved on, so let’s do the same.

[jjgg24]

[QUOTE=ET’s Home;6521582]
Don’t bother, there is no one home on that line. OP seems to have moved on, so let’s do the same.[/QUOTE]

Lol I’m still here reading the suggestions people have had I’m just trying to not be the target of snarky comments although I do appreciate people speaking up about it!

[jjgg24]

By the way I have not felt insulted by Xanthoria in the least bit!

[Tom_Bloomer]

[QUOTE=Kwalker024;6521600]
By the way I have not felt insulted by Xanthoria in the least bit![/QUOTE]

It is difficult for someone to insult you if you don’t respect their opinion. :yes:

[SwampYankee]

Tom, it’s aways just awwwwl about YOU, isn’t it? You may think you’re clever but you’re coming off as “Asshat, First Class.” Just givin’ you heads up . . .

[SCMSL]

And going back to the subject…!

I know a Jamaican groom who not only put it on them, he lit it on fire!

Never lit it on fire, would it work better? hehehe

[Tom_Bloomer]

[QUOTE=SwampYankee;6521676]
Tom, it’s aways just awwwwl about YOU, isn’t it? You may think you’re clever but you’re coming off as “Asshat, First Class.” Just givin’ you heads up . . .[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the flowers.

[jjgg24]

[QUOTE=SCMSL;6521685]
And going back to the subject…!

Never lit it on fire, would it work better? hehehe :P[/QUOTE]

Ooh might help from having to clip around their feet too… Just singe it off!!

[Derby_Lyn_Farms]

Back to the topic…

I was told to use gum turpentine that it was the same as the small expensive bottle of tuff stuff. not sure if it is the same thing as venice turpentine.

[Katy_Watts]

[QUOTE=SCMSL;6520050]

• 15 mL liquid lead ethyl
  It hardens hooves and kills anything horses may have in them.[/QUOTE]

Ya, cause lead is toxic.