Ya, cause lead is toxic.
Yep, it is. But this mix does work. Shall we try to drink a bottle of betadine and see if its good for us? Each medicine for its own good. This is a “home medicine” that vets and farriers do encourage people to use. Just thought I’d share my country’s knowledge
[QUOTE=SwampYankee;6521676]
Tom, it’s aways just awwwwl about YOU, isn’t it? You may think you’re clever but you’re coming off as “Asshat, First Class.” Just givin’ you heads up . . .[/QUOTE]
Agreed. I was just about to buy some durasole, too. Guess I’ll make my own instead.
Formalin & iodine. My old vet mixed it up and sold it as “sole paint”. The formalin is the ingredient in keratex that supposedly crosslinks the molecules and that and the iodine kill all kinds of nasties.
[QUOTE=gypsymare;6522139]
Agreed. I was just about to buy some durasole, too. Guess I’ll make my own instead.[/QUOTE]
lol This thread has been an enjoyable read thanks to the beating with verbal sticks of Tom Bloomer.
[QUOTE=gypsymare;6522139]
Agreed. I was just about to buy some durasole, too. Guess I’ll make my own instead.
Formalin & iodine. My old vet mixed it up and sold it as “sole paint”. The formalin is the ingredient in keratex that supposedly crosslinks the molecules and that and the iodine kill all kinds of nasties.[/QUOTE]
Interesting thanks!
Xanthoria in gray, stuff deleted
Here’s a script for you:
“Putting gasoline on a horse’s feet as a hoof hardener is not a good idea because (insert reasoning)”
Volatile hydrocarbons tend to be extremely desiccating - applied to the wall, they tend to cause disassociation of the strands of epithelial cells that comprise the straum medium on its distal periphery (aka, “hoof hairs”); applied to the solar surface, they tend to cause flaking and spalling of the exfoliating sole and insensitive frog, thereby greatly reducing ther protective properties.
Now wasn’t that easy? :winkgrin:
Yes’m. Chem 101 - and more’n 50+ years watching race trainers play at chemistry.
If you can though take a step back and see that for the average person, Venice Turpentine, formaldehyde and Stockholm tar and so on are all basically “nasty chemicals” and there’s no huge distinction between them.
Actually, there’s a difference beyond “huge” between them. Of the chemicals you’ve cited, aldehydes (of which formaldehyde is the most simple form) are the only chemicals you’ve named that form crosslinks between protein chains. NONE of the others do.
You sure wouldn’t eat any of them, and getting most of them on your skin is reason to run to wash it off. So why is it OK to paint formaldehyde on a horse’s feet, a known carcinogen, and not gasoline?
Not being in the least suicidal, I wouldn’t eat any topical: Would any rational person? There’s a vast difference between human skin and the solar surface of the horse’s hoof. In correct proportions, formaldehyde WITHOUT plasticizers is extremely reactive with the protein chains of the exfoliating sole and insensitive frog and initiate crosslinkage between these structures (i.e., form a crude plastic), a reaction that greatly strengthens the morphology of the affected structures and enhances their protective properties without affecting the proximal sensitive structures.
The reaction of aldehydes on protein chains is undesirable on human skin and can cause blindness on the human eye, but it’s extremely effective on the solar surface of a horse’s hoof. (When all else fails, follow label directions.)
Why Venice Turps, very toxic and highly flammable, and not gasoline? Stockholm tar, often laced with carcinogenic creosote?
I’m not much on the efficacy of Venice Turps, but I’ve been around for more’n 50 years and I’ve never seen or heard of a horse having any form of toxic reaction to it. Please cite any evidence you have that suggests the concentration of ingredients in either VT or ST has been ever cited as a topical carcinogen.
Be very suspicious of this post, I invented Durasole and I’m a principal in the company that makes the stuff. We’ve been selling it with a money-back guarantee of satisfaction since 1978. Just between us chickens, it ain’t worth it to try to mix your own stuff. 
Xanthoria in gray, stuff deleted
Here’s a script for you:
“Putting gasoline on a horse’s feet as a hoof hardener is not a good idea because (insert reasoning)”
Volatile hydrocarbons tend to be extremely desiccating - applied to the wall, they tend to cause disassociation of the strands of epithelial cells that comprise the straum medium on its distal periphery (aka, “hoof hairs”); applied to the solar surface, they tend to cause flaking and spalling of the exfoliating sole and insensitive frog, thereby greatly reducing ther protective properties.
Now wasn’t that easy? :winkgrin:
Yes’m. Chem 101 - and more’n 50+ years watching race trainers play at chemistry.
If you can though take a step back and see that for the average person, Venice Turpentine, formaldehyde and Stockholm tar and so on are all basically “nasty chemicals” and there’s no huge distinction between them.
Actually, there’s a difference beyond “huge” between them. Of the chemicals you’ve cited, aldehydes (of which formaldehyde is the most simple form) are the only chemicals you’ve named that form crosslinks between protein chains. NONE of the others do.
You sure wouldn’t eat any of them, and getting most of them on your skin is reason to run to wash it off. So why is it OK to paint formaldehyde on a horse’s feet, a known carcinogen, and not gasoline?
Not being in the least suicidal, I wouldn’t eat any topical: Would any rational person? There’s a vast difference between human skin and the solar surface of the horse’s hoof. In correct proportions, formaldehyde WITHOUT plasticizers is extremely reactive with the protein chains of the exfoliating sole and insensitive frog and initiates crosslinkage between these structures (i.e., forms a crude plastic), a reaction that greatly strengthens the morphology of the affected structures and enhances their protective properties without affecting the proximal sensitive structures.
The reaction of aldehydes on protein chains is undesirable on human skin and can cause blindness on the human eye, but it’s extremely effective on the solar surface of a horse’s hoof. (When all else fails, follow label directions.)
Why Venice Turps, very toxic and highly flammable, and not gasoline? Stockholm tar, often laced with carcinogenic creosote?
I’m not much on the efficacy of Venice Turps, but I’ve been around for more’n 50 years and I’ve never seen or heard of a horse having any form of toxic reaction to it. Please cite any evidence you have that suggests the concentration of ingredients in either VT or ST has been ever cited as a topical carcinogen.
[QUOTE=Tom Stovall;6523846]
Xanthoria in gray, stuff deleted
Here’s a script for you:
“Putting gasoline on a horse’s feet as a hoof hardener is not a good idea because (insert reasoning)”
Volatile hydrocarbons tend to be extremely desiccating - applied to the wall, they tend to cause disassociation of the strands of epithelial cells that comprise the straum medium on its distal periphery (aka, “hoof hairs”); applied to the solar surface, they tend to cause flaking and spalling of the exfoliating sole and insensitive frog, thereby greatly reducing ther protective properties.
Now wasn’t that easy? :winkgrin:
Yes’m. Chem 101 - and more’n 50+ years watching race trainers play at chemistry.
If you can though take a step back and see that for the average person, Venice Turpentine, formaldehyde and Stockholm tar and so on are all basically “nasty chemicals” and there’s no huge distinction between them.
Actually, there’s a difference beyond “huge” between them. Of the chemicals you’ve cited, aldehydes (of which formaldehyde is the most simple form) are the only chemicals you’ve named that form crosslinks between protein chains. NONE of the others do.
You sure wouldn’t eat any of them, and getting most of them on your skin is reason to run to wash it off. So why is it OK to paint formaldehyde on a horse’s feet, a known carcinogen, and not gasoline?
Not being in the least suicidal, I wouldn’t eat any topical: Would any rational person? There’s a vast difference between human skin and the solar surface of the horse’s hoof. In correct proportions, formaldehyde WITHOUT plasticizers is extremely reactive with the protein chains of the exfoliating sole and insensitive frog and initiate crosslinkage between these structures (i.e., form a crude plastic), a reaction that greatly strengthens the morphology of the affected structures and enhances their protective properties without affecting the proximal sensitive structures.
The reaction of aldehydes on protein chains is undesirable on human skin and can cause blindness on the human eye, but it’s extremely effective on the solar surface of a horse’s hoof. (When all else fails, follow label directions.)
Why Venice Turps, very toxic and highly flammable, and not gasoline? Stockholm tar, often laced with carcinogenic creosote?
I’m not much on the efficacy of Venice Turps, but I’ve been around for more’n 50 years and I’ve never seen or heard of a horse having any form of toxic reaction to it. Please cite any evidence you have that suggests the concentration of ingredients in either VT or ST has been ever cited as a topical carcinogen.
Be very suspicious of this post, I invented Durasole and I’m a principal in the company that makes the stuff. We’ve been selling it with a money-back guarantee of satisfaction since 1978. Just between us chickens, it ain’t worth it to try to mix your own stuff. :)[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your response I found your explanation very thorough and interesting!
Me in black, Tom in hot pink: :lol:
If you can though take a step back and see that for the average person, Venice Turpentine, formaldehyde and Stockholm tar and so on are all basically “nasty chemicals” and there’s no huge distinction between them.
Actually, there’s a difference beyond “huge” between them. Of the chemicals you’ve cited, aldehydes (of which formaldehyde is the most simple form) are the only chemicals you’ve named that form crosslinks between protein chains. NONE of the others do.
That wasn’t my point though, was it Tom? Can you go back and read my post and see if you can figure out what I that point was trying to make could be? Good luck! :yes:
Maybe just saying NOTHING, as opposed to saying it with attitude, is best…
I would think that a professional such as a farrier, would like to pass along helpful advice…not everyone knows it all!!!
Hey guys, I heard that applying hydrochloric acid to my horse’s hooves will make them harder. Oh, and C4, too. Should I try it?
Stovall, you’re one of the main reasons I feel like I should check in with rec.eq every now and then. (Although not enough to figure out how to access since I dropped my news reader eons ago, natch.) Do you still post there?
And why’nthehell is durasole purple now?
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Stovall, you’re one of the main reasons I feel like I should check in with rec.eq every now and then. (Although not enough to figure out how to access since I dropped my news reader eons ago, natch.) Do you still post there?
And why’nthehell is durasole purple now?[/QUOTE]
So idiots like me that lose their grip and spill it all over a new pair of jeans can see the evidence of their graceful moves…and shed their jeans infront of God and everyone before the stuff has a chance to soak thru into the skin.
True story and lucky for me everybody was only the horses, barn cats and my dog.
Wonderful product btw.
Simkie in gray, stuff deleted
Stovall, you’re one of the main reasons I feel like I should check in with rec.eq every now and then. (Although not enough to figure out how to access since I dropped my news reader eons ago, natch.) Do you still post there?
Facebook kinda supplanted the Wreck.
And why’nthehell is durasole purple now?
In 2008, the government made elemental iodine in quantities of more than 2.2 ounces a controlled substance because it was being used in the illegal synthesis of methamphetamine. At the time, we were buying 7% iodine in 55 gallon drums.
We had a choice: Buy an expensive DEA license, subject ourselves to onerous paperwork, and agree to random, unannounced, inspections - or take the iodine out of the formula.
We took the elemental iodine out, added a form of iodine that can’t be used in making meth, and put in more of the stuff that causes crosslinkage.
Unfortunately, the new formula resembled weak tea and we got complaints, lots of complaints. Not because the formula didn’t work - it tested better than the old formula - but because the user couldn’t tell where it was on the hoof during application. So, we added a microbicidal dye to the formula, which enables the user to determine exactly where on the hoof the product has been applied.
You asked me what time it was and I’ve told you how to build a watch. Glad to see you’re still kicking.
Tom Bloomer, you are rude and not funny. These people are obviously trying to educate themselves to better care of their horses. I’m sure you don’t know it all like you come across. Go away if you can’t be helpful. I too am looking for good ideas for stronger hoofs.
srsly? You dredge up a 3y.o. thread to offer insults?
Slow day at the asylum, you had to create a new SN just for a put down?
If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck…
[QUOTE=gigilurn;8182061]
Tom Bloomer, you are rude and not funny. These people are obviously trying to educate themselves to better care of their horses. I’m sure you don’t know it all like you come across. Go away if you can’t be helpful. I too am looking for good ideas for stronger hoofs.[/QUOTE]
Great way to start here!
FYI, this thread is from 2012… Learn to read and relax! 
[QUOTE=Xanthoria;6521240]
If you can though take a step back and see that for the average person, Venice Turpentine, formaldehyde and Stockholm tar and so on are all basically “nasty chemicals” and there’s no huge distinction between them.
You sure wouldn’t eat any of them, and getting most of them on your skin is reason to run to wash it off. So why is it OK to paint formaldehyde on a horse’s feet, a known carcinogen, and not gasoline? Why Venice Turps, very toxic and highly flammable, and not gasoline? [/QUOTE]
I know this thread is several years old, but I just wanted to point out that venice turpentine is resin from the larch tree. Not exactly a “nasty chemical” in the same league as gasoline, etc.
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