Hoof Hardener for Ouchy Feet?

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@kaya842

if you’re in Canada) but you may be able to get bulk copper and zinc for cheaper than the Hoofmaster to supplement the Omneity.

MadBarn has them separately and as a 3:1 ratio.

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@DiamondJubilee

I did some numbers with Hoofmaster and Omneity, but just for selenium, biotin, copper and zinc. Omnetiy has a much larger range of vitamins, but at a lower dose for the ones mentioned below.

Hoofmaster: 20mg Biotin, 75mg copper, 300mg zinc and 3mg of selenium (1 x 30g scoop provided)
Omneity: 10mg Biotin, 60.2mg copper, 250mg zinc and 1.2mg of selenium (2 x 30g scoops provided)

I’m not sure what is recommended for copper/zinc for laminitis or if needs to be higher, so I need to do more research there. He is getting 550mg zinc to 135.2mg of copper so a balance of about the recommended 5:1, but I’m not sure if more is needed for laminitis?
Other than that, he is getting the recommended dose for a horse. Now he is a 14h pony at about 700lb, so on the high side for zinc:copper… The selenium is high so I may back off on the Hoofmaster since with the 2 added, he’s getting a lot of biotin (30mg) anyway. It will reduce the selenium amounts. He doesnt get much grain or any other supplements that contain selenium in them anyway, so not too much added selenium that way, just in those 2 supplements.

I’m also only giving him about 1,000iu of natural vitamin E (500 iu in Omenity and 500iu of the pure powder) and I did read that he should be getting 5,000iu for laminitis. So I will up this tonight.

Ok I must have misread the Hoof Master webpage!

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@kaya842

if you’re in Canada) but you may be able to get bulk copper and zinc for cheaper than the Hoofmaster to supplement the Omneity.

MadBarn has them separately and as a 3:1 ratio.

The issue I found with the straight 3:1 cu/zn from MadBarn is the palatability. My horse wouldn’t even eat a fraction of a teaspoon added to their meal. It’s a lot simpler to feed something like Hoofmaster that my horse will eat straight up than fiddle endlessly with carriers and gradually increasing dosage on the straight cu/zn so it actually gets eaten.

@DiamondJubilee

I’m not sure what is recommended for copper/zinc for laminitis or if needs to be higher

You could compare to the amounts in AT+. But if you want to be really optimal you also need to check the ratios against your hay test and iron levels iirc.

@DiamondJubilee

he’s getting a lot of biotin (30mg)

When I went down the rabbit hole on this stuff I remember reading a study that while excess biotin won’t help hoof growth it has no negative effects either. Selenium on the other hand you need to watch but sounds like you are on top of that.