Horse has two USEF numbers

I have one that I sold to the US that is still registered under my EC Canada, but I know it’s showing in the US…

Every other one I have sold to the US, they have taken the EC passport and gotten a USEF number with that.

I once went to look at a ‘WB of unknown breeding’ with a big HJ record… it had a lip tattoo

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I do my fair share of internet sleuthing (on USEF) and have found horses that are 15 years old at a sales barn with no show record. Happens more often than not…

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USEF recently contacted me to say someone was trying to register a horse w one of my horses’ microchip number :flushed:

I sent them the record of his microchip and told them he had never left my possession.

I have no idea what that was about but it freaked me out.

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And they are all recent imports from Europe who magically made it across the ocean without one single piece of identifying information. :rofl:

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Fairly common before microchips and, especially, before age verification. Harder now that just about everything (everything?) from Europe is chipped.

A friend was looking at a horse maybe 8-9 years ago. Vet scanned and found a chip and wrote the number down. They put me to work and, thanks to the power of the Chronicle forums, we were able to ID him. Turned out to be a few years older than he was supposed to be. Friend got some negotiating power. Ultimately we were able to get a copy of his KWPN papers and show record from Holland. He may have had more than one USEF ID number as well.

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That’s what made me wonder…I found it hard to believe he had no show record.

Was it difficult to get the papers and show records from Holland?

No. I emailed KWPN and they emailed copies.

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I had the opposite happen just a few months ago. I bought a rising four year old large pony prospect. Discovered a microchip, and she’s actually a rising three year old full Thoroughbred with a chip recorded with the Jockey Club! Hard to say if she’ll remain a pony, although I can’t say I mind one way or the other.

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That’s pretty cool!!

Did you happen to buy a lovely gray US-bred warmblood gelding, perfect 1.10-1.20m packer? If not, then I know of at least one other horse with two USEF numbers in the exact same scenario. :joy:

I went to look at a horse to lease in 2017. Same kind of mystery, imported but docs missing.

Long story short I traced him back with a LOT of luck. He had 3 USEF numbers, different names and EVERYONE lied about his age the next time they registered him after the first USEF number.

VERY disheartening.

Em

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No he’s not US bred, but it seems to be a fairly common story from what I’m gathering lol!

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I bought a horse with unknown breeding. Lo and behold, when I went to chip her she already had a chip. But it was never registered. I called the company that issued the chip and all they can tell is that the number on the chip matched a number for a chip that had been sold, but not to who or even when. What a bummer and a disappointment. I had really hoped to be able to trace her history a bit more once I had the chip, but it was a dead end. Why go through the trouble of putting a chip in and then never registering it?

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It happens a lot with pets, because the shelter chips them but the new owner has to take care of the registration after they adopt. Perhaps it was a case where the breeder put the chip in but left it to a new owner to register and it never happened.

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Reminds me of a time I was watching Rolex and the commentator was saying that one of the competitors horses (I think it was Michel Jung) was registered as [some fancy european warmblood], but was 98% thoroughbred.

The horse probably couldn’t have been registered as a TB because of that 2%, but it cracks me up that there are so many people who won’t even look at an ad for a TB, but hand them a 98% TB with a “Sport Horse” label on it and suddenly iT’s A uNiCoRn!!! :unicorn: :joy:

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That was Sam, registered Hann because it was bred in Hannover. Pink papers will often add a few K to a price but often those same people who pay extra won’t then register it properly. People are strange.

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This is the exact situation we’re in with my daughter’s horse. He was registered in Canada but then reregistered (with a different show name) when imported (a couple of owners ago). No evident fraud involved, all details are correct, just one registry (with an all-Canadian show record) under what is now his barn name and another in the US with his current show name.

Was it worth the hassle to correct it with USEF? I’ve thought about trying to get the records merged but am not sure what the benefit would be at this point - he’s now got a long US track record under the current name and number, as my daughter is a step-down job for him.

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Well this is ironic…we made numerous calls and emails, submitted proof multiple times, and got no where. We eventually found someone who was higher up to help us who told us they would resolve it and it had been fixed…I just checked USEF and he still shows up under the previous name/owner. So I need to make a correction, it was never resolved.

Granted this was before microchips became required and I took the USEF employee at their word and didn’t do my diligence in double checking.

Short answer-No.