Horse & Hound Apologizes for Publishing Racist Team Chase Name

[Jealoushe]

No, there’s no racism in eventing or equestrian sport, right?

https://www.facebook.com/simon.saddlechariot/posts/10160478797859968

https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/plus/news-plus/apologies-for-bolox-team-chasing-name-hh-plus-728493?lazyload=0&utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=flipboard_rss_feed&utm_content=horseandhound

[Willesdon]

H&H reported the multiple apologies of organisers and other people at a team chase. The only person who didn’t was the idiot who named the team and I suspect he was totally tone deaf. It shouldn’t have happened, hence the apologies. Different place, the UK.

[FitToBeTied]

It’s not a racist name but someone making a political statement that isn’t popular.

[Highflyer]

@FitToBeTied

It’s not a racist name but someone making a political statement that isn’t popular.

It’s not popular because it’s racist.

[Sticky_Situation]

@Highflyer

It’s not popular because it’s racist.

I’d even go so far as to argue that while it is in fact racist, it’s unfortunately not at all unpopular. At least not in the US.

[eightpondfarm]

oh mannnnn…that’s sickeningly grotesque. What hateful people.

[FitzE]

@Willesdon

H&H reported the multiple apologies of organisers and other people at a team chase. The only person who didn’t was the idiot who named the team and I suspect he was totally tone deaf. It shouldn’t have happened, hence the apologies. Different place, the UK.

Tone deaf is an awfully kind description of the person who named the team. I’m not at all inclined to coddle like that. It was a hateful and purposeful move on his/her part.

Unclear on what you mean by, “Different place, the UK.” If you mean there’s no or even less racism there than other places, that’s wildly inaccurate.

[Renn_aissance]

@eightpondfarm

oh mannnnn…that’s sickeningly grotesque. What hateful people.

“Hateful” is absolutely the right word.

[B_and_B]

Now that use of George Floyd’s name is an example of being racist, whereas I still think the other thread (that I really hope stays dead) was not. It is incredibly bad taste to use the names of any recently deceased people in that way; it is disrespectful and dehumanizing of the deceased whoever they are, and dehumanization is the core of both racism and general incivility in any of its ‘isms/phobias’. It is also, in my experience, a typical example of the ‘joking’ British form of racism, which is just as wrong as the American in your face style; I’ve always found the insult veiled as a joke much harder to deal with because the person complains that ‘you simply can’t take a joke’ and wiggles away.

clarification, ‘other thread’ that one on Plantation

[Jealoushe]

@B and B

Now that use of George Floyd’s name is an example of being racist, whereas I still think the other thread (that I really hope stays dead) was not. It is incredibly bad taste to use the names of any recently deceased people in that way; it is disrespectful and dehumanizing of the deceased whoever they are, and dehumanization is the core of both racism and general incivility in any of its ‘isms/phobias’. It is also, in my experience, a typical example of the ‘joking’ British form of racism, which is just as wrong as the American in your face style; I’ve always found the insult veiled as a joke much harder to deal with because the person complains that ‘you simply can’t take a joke’ and wiggles away.

Exactly.

After reading the H&H forum thread on the dressage helmet debate though, I am not really surprised.

[TheMoo]

@B and B

Now that use of George Floyd’s name is an example of being racist, whereas I still think the other thread (that I really hope stays dead) was not. It is incredibly bad taste to use the names of any recently deceased people in that way; it is disrespectful and dehumanizing of the deceased whoever they are, and dehumanization is the core of both racism and general incivility in any of its ‘isms/phobias’. It is also, in my experience, a typical example of the ‘joking’ British form of racism, which is just as wrong as the American in your face style; I’ve always found the insult veiled as a joke much harder to deal with because the person complains that ‘you simply can’t take a joke’ and wiggles away.

clarification, ‘other thread’ that one on Plantation

I agree with this whole heartily. When you have people doing this is the word plantation the hill white people want to die on? Has EN written a story about this?

[Sticky_Situation]

When you clearly have people in the horse world willing to do things like this right out in the open, it does somewhat undermine the “There’s no racism in horse sports, because I’ve never seen it! Besides, I knew a black guy who rode and everybody liked him, so clearly it isn’t a problem!” argument.

[Maude]

Poor taste

[Equkelly]

Absolutely disgusting, hateful, and racist.

Also if you were one of the people who spent 93 pages arguing about how a certain name of a certain eventing venue was NOT racist, but you can’t make one little comment to denounce THIS… then shame on you.

[TheMoo]

@Equkelly

Absolutely disgusting, hateful, and racist.

Also if you were one of the people who spent 93 pages arguing about how a certain name of a certain eventing venue was NOT racist, but you can’t make one little comment to denounce THIS… then shame on you.

I commented so save your anger. This is bigger than the word plantation and what we were referring to when we said what they did is. nothing but virtue signaling. There is a problem and the problem isn’t the word plantation. Has EN commented? Inquiring minds want to know. Where is their outrage? Why didn’t they break this story?

[hopashore1]

@TheMoo

Has EN commented? Inquiring minds want to know. Where is their outrage? Why didn’t they break this story?

This wasn’t an event it was a team chase, so not something EN would have covered or had any knowledge of prior to the H&H article…

[TheMoo]

@Equkelly

Absolutely disgusting, hateful, and racist.

Also if you were one of the people who spent 93 pages arguing about how a certain name of a certain eventing venue was NOT racist, but you can’t make one little comment to denounce THIS… then shame on you.

Question, why aren’t you in your own house bitching about Andy and electric spurs?

[TheMoo]

@hopashore1

This wasn’t an event it was a team chase, so not something EN would have covered or had any knowledge of prior to the H&H article…

Yeah but they are all “go eventing” and stuff. They call out racism and stuff. Do they have an article now?

[hopashore1]

Right “go eventing” not “go team chasing” They have called out racism in eventing, I don’t think I’ve seen them call out racism in other horse sports, particularly as it occurs in other countries, (though it certainly exists) so I certainly wouldn’t expect them to have an article about this particular incident unless the people involved also event. I don’t think that’s a fair characterization of the role EN has decided to play in anti-racism to either look to them to write an article about this or point fingers and call them hypocrites if they don’t.

EN’s parent company, Horse Nation, may have posted an article about this particular instance and I would probably look to them over EN since they cover multiple disciplines–their search function doesn’t seem to want to return things in chronological order though so I’m unsure.

[Equkelly]

@TheMoo

Question, why aren’t you in your own house bitching about Andy and electric spurs?

Because I don’t follow the pros and had no idea who that was until I googled him. But this is not the time to whatabout. Why can’t we all just come together and denounce overt racism in the sport? Why do you need to whatabout? That’s dismissive of the issue at hand.