Horse moving slowly, acting like he has to poo?

My horse is odd in that the 4 years I’ve owned him, he’s never been able to poo while moving. During a workout, he will usually go once or twice. I’m used to the signs, as it takes a few minutes for him to “work one up”. His tail will slowly raise higher and higher, and his movement will get slower and less coordinated until he’s ready and he’ll stop and do his business. Then he goes back to normal.

The last 2 times I’ve ridden/lunged him, he’s been acting like he was about to poo for the whole workout (30-40 minutes each). He held his tail out a little bit for pretty much the whole time and was moving incredibly slow at all 3 gates. He especially struggled to get any forward momentum cantering. He did go potty once (and they’ve been normal and solid, no loose stools), but instead of moving normally after, he went right back to acting like he had to go again.

He has a wonderful new farrier, UTD with his back and SI injections, got a new well fitting saddle in July, and was doing better than ever up until now. I palpate his back/SI area before and after every workout, and it’s felt completely normal. I don’t think it could be tooth related but he does have a dentist appt in a couple weeks anyway. The only thing that’s been different is he recently had an increased dose of MSM. I found out about 2 weeks ago that my barn was only giving him his smartpaks every other day, so since then they have corrected the error and he is getting 10,000mg MSM every morning, instead of every other. The only side effect I’ve heard from MSM is it making horses hot, but it seems to have had the opposite effect or perhaps causing some digestive upset? Have you ever heard of such a thing? I can’t think of anything else that would cause this.

I have heard of a few horses having a negative reaction to MSM, so I would just remove it and see what happens.

horses are very capable of galloping and pooping at the same time :slight_smile: They are also very good at training us to let them slow down and stop because that’s easier.

Most horses will hold their tail out a little bit when they move. I’d be more worried if it just lays there, limp.

What has your weather done? Any sudden decrease in temps? Is he a good drinker? One possibility is he’s working on a little impaction - not enough to cause a problem yet, maybe just enough to be a little uncomfortable and not as easily worked out. Maybe a bit of an ulcer issue, maybe or maybe not related to the MSM.

Have you taken TPR? I’d start checking that, and if nothing else, give your vet a call to chat about other possibilities.

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I bet he could if I forced him, but thus far without resorting to kicking and whipping him to move, I can’t win. I’m familiar with normal tail carriage, but this is not that. I forgot to mention, but he’s been quite gassy as well. Our weather has been terrible. It went from warm summer weather in august, to 20-40 F degrees raining and/or snowing almost every day in September, to finally normal dry fall weather in the 40-60 degree range. I can’t say that’s terribly unusual for us though.

My horse has been weird about pooping since I backed him as a youngster. Not with the other things you talk about though but he might feel weird the entire ride until we walk around at the end and he finally poops.

He usually stops three separate times and then poops. I tried everything to keep him going when he was younger and gave up…not worth the stress for either of us. If we are cantering a course at a show he will continue so I don’t care…bigger fish to fry. It is also so much easier to clean up after a ride when you only have one big pile. Haaaaa!!

First time he felt this way I thought he was lame and cancelled a show…took me a few times to figure out it was because he had to poop and wouldn’t.

Maybe try removing the MSM to see if he returns to his “normal” weird pooping behaviour?

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Removing the MSM is easy enough. I’d start there.

I have a horse kind of like this but it’s because he’s both lazy and smart. He’ll stop to pass gas if you let him. He’ll stop and think about pooping if you let him. If he’s truly working forward and on my aids, suddenly he can poop while moving! Amazing!

He has no health issues. It is easier to clean up in one pile though :winkgrin:

Also pay attention to his hydration.

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Time to start a re-training process. Promise, he can totally keep moving. It sounds like he’s not really in front of your aids to begin with, hasn’t been for a while, so it may take a while. And, it doesn’t start with just whipping him when he slows to poop. It starts long before that, with a lot of other things, to teach him that when you ask him to move, he says “yes M’AM, how fast and in what direction M’AM!” without running from the aids :slight_smile:

I’m familiar with normal tail carriage, but this is not that. I forgot to mention, but he’s been quite gassy as well.

I have seen MSM do that to some horses, they don’t do well with dietary sulfur, so I’d definitely stop the MSM

Our weather has been terrible. It went from warm summer weather in august, to 20-40 F degrees raining and/or snowing almost every day in September, to finally normal dry fall weather in the 40-60 degree range. I can’t say that’s terribly unusual for us though.

If he’s drinking well and enough, and everything else seems ok, it may be gas that ends up in uncomfortable places. Hopefully stopping the MSM will do the trick.

He is definitely not in front of the aids, I will admit that! He has not had consistent ridden work for more than a couple months at a time in the last 4 years. So yes, he needs a LOT of refreshing. He’s a very good boy, but does plant his feet and refuse to move when it comes to doing his business.

I would put my money on back pain, I know you say that has been ruled out, buttt…just curious if he seems to move his tail normally when on the cross ties IE if you scratch one side the tail moves away towards the other. Also agree the MSM can be unpleasant to their digestive system…Best of Luck

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If you have sandy soil I would consider sand in his gut.

Mine is like this too some days. He’s not a highly motivated horse as it is and he’ll be like oh wait, I may have to poop in 30 minutes, can we just not work till that’s over? Got a newspaper?

And sometimes I do think he think’s it’s uncomfortable but he can still be naughty. Wait, trotting was fine, but I’m going to have to stop before we canter. Or, like today, wait, huh, I thought we were done? No, hold on, now don’t rush me! Maybe I have to pee too? No, wait. Ok, now I’m ok. Do we still have to go back to work now?

We are doing a lot of work on not having him call all the shots. He can get so offended about it. Teenagers.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Why does he require back and SI injections?

He has mild kissing spine and was having some inflammation/arthritis in his SI. He’s had it for years so I know his signs when he’s having a rough day. This is different.

My money is on kissing spine issues. This is a truly debilitating condition for many horses and it is a progressive disorder. Since he’s had it for years, it likely gets worse each year. Many horses with KS can’t/shouldn’t be ridden.

It isn’t possible to train a horse out of a significant physiological disorder like this.

Sorry that your horse has it.

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