please excuse my ignorance, but can anyone tell me what breed E.S. is? I have a passport from a horse that came from the netherlands and this is what is says next to breed???
I don’t know about a breed, but I thought that stood for Elite Stallion…
I looked at a mare that was ES. I was told it was the European Studbook as the mare’s sire was not approved. Basically it’s just a book so the horse can have a passport(the mare was an import) so it can move about. This mare was dutch on top and trake/holst on bottom and I don’t really think she was actually considered any “breed” just more or less was a COP.
Someone may chime in who knows more than me though. Like I said I just did some quick research on it when I looked at the mare(who I passed on).
COP??
Certificate of Pedigree
Tim
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COP stands for Certificate of Pedigree… meaning one parent didn’t qualify for the registery and the other did (or at least enough for their offspring to be registered).
Once given a COP paper, then the mare will have a very hard time gaining full approval status.
For example, had a Holsteiner mare with COP papers… the Holsteiner registry said if she were to be bred to a approved Holsteiner stud twice… and produce two Holsteiner offspring, that were given premium status at inspection then the Holsteiner mare could gain Main Book status.
Hope that helps. :yes:
Geez I never heard of ES but I guess with passports and micros being the law they have to register somewhere.
Terri
You can contact Weatherbys to see if your horse can be blood tested if it is a full TB.
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So he’s a mutt, lol. Doesn’t matter, I love him just the same. Just wish I looked more closely before I bought him. Think I payed too much. Maybe lesson learned not to just trust what someone says.
Mutt?:eek: You do know that most european horses are in registries and are not “breeds.”
In europe, sports horses are bred the best to the best for performance. (Excluding of course breeds like TBs and Trakehners, and even Traks have lots of Arab in them.)
That’s why you’ll get a Hannoverian who has a DWB sire, or a TB sire, etc. It’s a much different system over there. And different registries can have the same stud approved for each (multiple) registries.
Those of us who buy from european breeders know we are getting performance horses. Not purebred ones like my TB mares were, but horses whose sires and dams all down the line were winning in jumping and dressage.
So your “mutt” might be the get of some great horses. If you can find out if he was in a registry like DWB or Holsteiner, etc.
Is there a long # on his passport? If so, it may be his registry #. Each registry has a different (some multiple) #s. It should be on his pink papers.
Yes, I would have never even notice that was spam :lol:. Good eye!
Don’t feel bad about him being a “mutt”. Like the prev poster said, lots and lots of WBs are “mutts”. The ES registered mare I passed on was because of her absolutely awful temperment. If your guy is what you want then who cares what his papers say or how much you paid for him. As he is a gelding, his value will be determined by what he’s doing and such, not what registry he’s in or not in.
Thx for your responses. He does have a long # but I dont have pink papers. I obviously am fairly new to this world so appreciate all the help/info. Like I said before though, it doesn’t really matter. I bought him because he’s perfect for me and I will learn a lot on him. I understand u pay for that for sure! :-). I’m just curious about he rest.
