Horse Starved to Death in NJ at Trainers?

Do you know by who, exactly? I assume an arm of law enforcement? Just curious if it is police, animal control, sheriff … etc.

Are they misdemeanor or criminal, or does it clarify?

If the horse was there to be started under saddle and he was difficult, I wonder if the “trainer” decided to starve him to make him more maleable? Just speculation on my part.

But I do have one question about that youtube…Why are so many of these shot in cars? It seems a strange place to do a video.

I got an eyeful of it being Posted on the court of NJ website.

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Those were laid “a while back”, I can’t remember timeline. But there was talk about it on the owners FB.

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The following comes from a limited knowledge of the difficulties of podcasting and video’ing …

One reason is that it is fairly easy to set up in the front seat for decent quality sound and visuals, which is not always the case in a building/home. Plus it’s a contained space with controlled intrusions.

Viewers identify/connect with the setting which is familiar to them. That helps the video be more relatable.

If they are driving somewhere, it’s time efficient, too.

Technically: For podcasting and youtubing, capturing good quality audio and visual is a common challenge that people who do this long-term have to figure out. Audiences have become more used to better quality and are less likely to pay attention and share if it isn’t there.

Sound can bounce and eddy off the surroundings, escape into open areas, causing uneven quality that can be annoying to the listener. Inside the car the sound profile tends to be contained and consistent.

Backgrounds inside of buildings/homes can take some effort to sort out with light & shadow. Bad lighting angles and shadows looks bad. If not done thoughtfully, a background can show more than the videographer wants to share.

Anyway, interestingly, the front seat positions in a vehicle can offer a fairly good environment for better quality audio and visual than someone doing this informally at home or elsewhere.

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We had friends staying with us recently, and one of them DJs a weekly blues radio show in Michigan (we are in Colorado). He normally does it live at the studio, but since he was traveling, he recorded it while staying with us. He couldn’t get decent sound quality in our condo because it’s all wood and vinyl plank floors–there was too much echo. So he went and sat in his truck to record his show. It turned out fine.

Rebecca

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And also interestingly, I think, is that the engine noise doesn’t seem to be an issue.

A lot of podcasters who do it “from home”, as it were, have either converted a closet to their recording space, or rented studio space/time from a local commercial studio. There are podcasters who record in their cars.

So that’s why professional studio recording spaces tend to be very small and constructed of particular materials. The producers who control the recording electronics sit outside of the recording area. “Behind the glass”, as they say.

An expert once told me that sound and light both move, eddy and bounce off surfaces, just like water. (So does wind.) Understanding and controlling those factors is a huge part of visual and audio production. I think that is a fascinating process. :slight_smile:

That is really interesting, and I’d wondered that myself! A bit of a tangent, but there are TikTok videos that pop up in my feed on Instagram and Facebook (I’m not on TikTok) where people are trying various foods in cars. I know people eat in their cars, but for a foodie video, it’s kind of not the greatest setting, but I guess that’s why people do it. (This isn’t judgement of people who eat in cars just for a meal, btw, but for a “money shot” of ice cream or a burger for a piece of “entertainment,” it looks super-awkward.)

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Sorry for the tangent…but it is VERY interesting!

Not to go off on too much of a tangent, but just anecdotally, and if someone is thinking of doing something youtube-y …

During the shutdown pandemic of 2020, a friend/associate wanted me to help him do a youtube video series recorded on Zoom, very informal and local, for his local associates. Nothing fancy. With a guest or two Zooming in from their homes. I was asked to help less for technical skills and more for subject matter knowledge.

Oh. My. God. How could something that sounds so simple, be so complicated! :smile: :crazy_face:

No one had expectations of professional quality. But the audience needed to be able to hear and see clearly what the presentation had to offer! Those first couple of 20 minute bits were – not good.

Maybe it is audience expectations from our exposure to tv and other media, but visual and audio backgrounds in a household can be extraordinarily intrusive and distracting, even with some advance planning. Plus the inopportune light and shadow sometimes made it hard to make out faces and bodies.

The sound was all over the place – louder, softer & more indistinct, bad technology on the guest’s side, even sound suddenly directed somewhere else if a guest turned their head. There is an art to speaking into even a computer microphone, and we weren’t up on it.

One of the biggest challenges is that it can be very difficult to control random factors with other people also present in a household, even if those people are avoiding the video area. Even from other rooms, their sound and movement can noticeably impact the video. The viewer can’t help but pick up on it and have a thought as to what that sound/sight is.

Plus: pets. :laughing: Everybody’s dog wants to be heard and seen on the owner’s youtube video! :star_struck: Pets gravitate toward whatever has their owner’s focus. Dogs like to be involved! Viewers like the doggies, but it becomes more about the dogs than the subject.

I read up on doing a better job. Interestingly even with efforts to improve, it is just very difficult to control video quality working from a household where other people also live, and are likely to be present.

Our guest who was most polished at this not only had a separate room set aside, he had special lighting – and lighting screens to control glare and refraction. Good sound equipment as well. It made such a difference! :laughing:

We did have a couple of guests who knew enough to Zoom in from their cars, although at the time I didn’t completely appreciate the technical reasons why. It was better quality than video from a home.

So as we learned, I came up with an advance list for each of the guests of about 7 things, very simplified to make it seem easy, for them to arrange ahead of time to make for better audio and visual. And present them at their best.

Some guests tried to follow it, some ignored it, most didn’t understand the ‘why’. The sound improved, at least. We had in the background of some guests things like kitchen counters with dirty dishes. Television sound. People walking by behind them, oblivious. Books, pictures and shelf knick-knacks that might or might not be something they wanted to share with the world. A mirror, heaven’s sake. A window with light streaming in from behind the guest, who dropped out into near-invisibility. (Keep glass out of your video, y’all. No glass.) It can be hard to encourage the guest to make last-minute adjustments, minutes before the scheduled Zoom begins, after they have already determined this is the one place in the house they can do this.

Even media pros struggle with this. During that pandemic shut-down time a well-known icon of a particular interest decided to do an at-home youtube video, a sort of get-to-know you interview, and a home tour showing how this person lived. To be widely promoted to their public. It was professionally produced, home-staged, managed, and interviewed by promoters who were supposed to be experts.

Viewers who were afficianados of this interest and this person combed the background visuals in the elegant home and posted about things they noticed! During the interview, behind the well-known interviewee, some framed fine-art pictures were hanging on their wall. These were photographs of children that had been artistically manipulated to look like interesting contemporary art. Or child porn. Depending on your point of view. Ooops. :grimacing:

That was all people talked about online re the video - the pictures in the background that could be fine art photography, or child exploitation. And what is going on with someone who has this on their wall as art? (The pictures had been hanging there for years, as it happened. The producers hadn’t even noticed them particularly.)

The result of the video was not at all what the interviewee planned or anticipated! What an example of how a “simple” youtube video can get away from you! :sunglasses: :crazy_face:

Some of the issues you list can also impact telehealth sessions. I have to do one each month with my nephrologist and some other care team members. I always check the counter behind where I sit for these to make sure there’s nothing weird or embarrassing sitting there. There are windows all around, but I point my laptop at an angle to avoid glare. I keep background noise to a minimum. My husband tends to go downstairs to the garage to stay out of the way, but then plays music on his iPod, loud enough that everyone on the session hears it. I finally said something to him about it, as I’m sure it’s annoying to the medical folks, and it’s very distracting for me. He was suitably embarrassed.

Rebecca

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The sound of a toilet flushing. Maybe more than once.

Just before your video recording, try shouting “FOR THE NEXT 20 MINUTES NOBODY GO TO THE BATHROOM !!!” and see how THAT lands in the average American household.
:astonished: :grimacing: :scream: :laughing:

Toilets don’t have a mute button. I want someone to work on that. :face_with_raised_eyebrow: :thinking:

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So this just popped up on Reddit…

Good job somebody.

Taking the risk that Kadi comes after her as well. Along with the usual trolls and haters.

This is what it takes. If someone isn’t willing to expose themselves in order to out the truth, the truth won’t be outed, and the abuse continues on and on.

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Is this the same facility where the OP had their horse? Just unbelievable what people are capable of .

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I’m so confused. Why are there any horses still boarded at that facility? Can someone notify the owners what’s happening so they can pull their animals out of there? I know these are horses in training, but this is an emergency. If anyone still has access, find the names and numbers of the owners and call them, please! I really hope this is being done. Those two horses laying down in that picture…if they haven’t been moved, they’re probably dead by now!

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The two horses in the mud I believe are deceased. The two in the stable I think were rescued.

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This happened at the same facility Amber Cobb kept her horses at when the video was taken showing her abusing the thoroughbred filly. Definitely lots of shady stuff happening there. Sad.

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