Horse stumbling on landing, what to expect?

Looking for similar stories because this has got me pretty freaked and I flip between “this horse will never be ridden again” and “I just need to ride better”.

A few months ago, my lease horse stumbled hard landing a line. At the time it didn’t seem super notable. We’d done the same line vertical to vertical a few times, then my trainer made the out an oxer, I jumped in a bit weak and tried to gallop up to make the number. Whether my override distracted him from noticing the second rail, or he was just too strung out to make it, he jumped right at the second rail, smacked his front feet on it really hard and buckled a bit on landing. He managed to catch himself after a couple awkward steps and we were okay.

More recently, something similar happened again. Forward line, I let him get strung out, smacked out the rail and struggled to catch himself. Then, a week ago, he stumbled similarly, except this time there was no rail, no line, no heavy canter, just a very small warm up fence on a circle. My trainer and I decided we’re done riding him until we can figure out what’s going on.

He is built a bit downhill, we’ve worked really hard to lighten him up. We basically just do flat work all winter so he’s been getting excited when jumping, especially down lines. That said, I feel like it’s gone too far to just be blaming mistakes on my part.

Our first thought was something in the front end. He’s an older gentleman, not without maintenance. We thought the rails we’re causing pain on landing. The vet came out and said she couldn’t see anything obvious, but we’re coordinating with his owner to do a neuro exam and potentially Xrays. The vet said if nothing shows up on those, we’ll look at his neck. For now, horse is doing hand walking only (with his normal turnout etc.).

Has anyone dealt with something similar? Was it career ending? I’ve leased this guy for years after his owner moved away, he’s been an absolute gem. I was really hoping he would be piloting kids around for years after me.

My first thought would be flexions, neuro, and feet x rays. Discomfort can absolutely impact biomechanics and ability to recover from a weird spot or small trip.

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Front feet issues, new farrier, or riding in a new GGT arena. Seen many trip and fall when it wasn’t installed/footing maintained correctly. Maybe neck issues since they use it to balance. Sent one back from lease early as he kept tripping and going down with the amateur rider. Not sure what the diagnosis end up being but he did continue to show.

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I’d also not rule out the hind end. If he’s heavy up front it could be because he’s reluctant to rock back on his hocks and jump up and over the fence, so instead he’s heavier on his front end than he should be. If he’s just coming back into jumping from a winter of flat work, it could be something as simple as a lack of strength behind.

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I would also have the horse’s vision checked.

My horse tripped in the front 2x when the footing was redone and it hadn’t been dragged all the way (was still deep). It stopped as soon as it was reworked.

Has the horse tripped with your trainer at all? Just curious. Were there any health issues that popped up if you did a vet exam/PPE before the lease? I would definitely do a full vet workup. I am pretty cautious when it comes to front-end tripping–growing up I saw a riding accident with someone at my barn that involved a BAD front-end trip after a jump. It was career ending for the rider. Because of that, I lean towards having someone (you or owner depending on lease contract and what you can negotiate), spending the money to make sure something isn’t going on, especially if this is new.

For what it’s worth, I had a downhill horse that similarly did a lot of work on to lighten up. Never tripped on the forehand despite being downhill.

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The footing is relatively new (whole arena is less than 6 months old), but only my guy seems to be struggling. Though maybe it’s making an underlying issue worse. It’s deeper than what I have ridden on in the past, but not dramatically so. I haven’t ridden him out of this arena since the summer/early fall. He never seemed to trip on the grass.

There was no PPE when the lease started (which was also 5 years ago so probably out of date), but we do have some Xrays and other reports from a couple of years ago to compare to. I’m hoping something ends up standing out, otherwise I don’t know if I’ll feel safe jumping him.

Trainer hasn’t mentioned the horse tripping with her, she doesn’t jump him often though.

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I think you should provide a video.
I’ve had horses be clumsy with one rider and never with others, and I’ve had horses that were genuinely trippy and clumsy so I think any feedback you get on this is potentially misguided.

Seriously I had one guy who was is a super beginner mamas boy type of guy whose mom is sort of a wannabe dressage queen try to tell people my horse was neurologic because it would trip with its back feet occasionally when he would sit really hard in the trot and turn really hard with his rein. Like yeah most horses are gonna occasionally trip a little if you ride like that and I tried to explain that to him. The horse never trips with anyone else and jumps the .90s great. But yeah it’s really horrible when people spread rumors like that, this horse is really very clearly not neurologic in any way.

But I’ve had a few other older lesson horse types I’ve had to retire because they started getting too trippy, just age.

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Don’t hesitate to xray all the feet.

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I would ultrasound the hind suspensories, too.

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I had one that we were scared to keep riding because of the amount she tripped. She ended up having a cyst on the coffin bone.

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None of this sounds like “stumbling on landing” or “tripping” to me. Horse muddled through the fence before landing, jumping into the rail. Both major stumbles were from horse getting too-long a stride and too-long a distance, which means the horse was unbalanced coming into the second fence and is not scopey enough for the height you’re jumping to get out cleanly. Or, in pain somewhere and unable to move his body how he’d need to to get out cleanly.

The third stumble over a small warm-up fence, which I’m assuming wasn’t approached “strung out,” would make me wonder if either of the first two situations might have caused an injury.

I’d look for arthritis in the neck, then a soft tissue injury, then the feet.

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Glad you are going to stop riding him until he gets checked out! I’m sure you know, but just to state it, rider falls resulting from stumbles and trips can be extremely dangerous. Land-darting right on your head, horse falling on top of you, things getting tangled up: after a couple of concussions from this sort of thing, stumbling and tripping scares the living crap out of me.

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It may be that that first bad fence tweaked something that didn’t really resolve - he’s getting older, after all. He may need much more thoughtful riding on your part (keeping him balanced over his hind end, not getting him to the long weak distance) to preserve his front end. Take a minute to really analys his jump. Is it straight? Is he preferntially pushing off from one hind leg? Does he land more softly from a deeper distance (where he’s pushing off from his hind end more)?

It never hurts to get hoof xrays and do a full lameness exam. Personally, the neck is not a place I’d xray unless there were absolute signs it was a problem - YMMV. I also would be riding the horse, but always on the bit (so you’re supporting his hind end), to minimize the chance of tripping.

Older horses need to be kept in work in order to be their best, just as we do. Work this horse from the ground if you don’t feel safe riding him, but keep him doing something unless he’s going to retire to pasture.

I don’t know that this is career ending, but I also am not sure I would feel confident jumping this horse in the future. Another issue is that this is a lease horse–the OP didn’t say how much of the bill she would be footing vs. the owner, but I would personally be reluctant to spend a lot of my own money in this instance. The exam and workup could be very broad. And also where, even if the vet thought they could identify a cause, you might still not be comfortable jumping the horse again, because tripping can be a bit of a dangerous problem and I don’t think any vet could guarantee resolution of the issue.

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So, it’s been determined that he has navicular syndrome in his right front. Likely made worse by having a different farrier the last few months who hasn’t done a great job on his feet and left his toe longer than normal.

The vet thinks navicular is causing him to walk toe first which with longer toes and deeper footing (and some bad riding on my part) is causing the stumbling.

He’s getting some time off and painkillers for now. The vet isn’t too worried about returning to work, but we’ll have to see where his future ends up.

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Lots of things (including good shoeing) can help with this. The more your can teach him to carry himself with his hind end, the longer he’ll be happy jumping.

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Thanks! I’d love exercises or tips for teaching him that for once we’re back on.

We do a ton of flatwork and I love adding new ideas to the toolbox. The biggest thing we always focused on with him was transitions (both between and within gaits), along with things like counter-canter to make him focus on balance and straightness. He’s got every button which is a lot of fun, but I am 100% guilty of letting him sucker me in to a dead canter on the flat, faking out any sense of collection or packaging up. Similarly, this gets me into trouble when we try and add power, but it just down forward and down. Exercises to not just build his strength, but teaching me how to feel it are super appreciated!

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