Just some results back from the doctor. I am anemic and possibly have lyme disease or Mono (Which I thought was a teenager disease, but i guess not?) They are running more tests. However, to treat the anemia, they gave me a prescription for iron. But all my knowledge of how anemia works tells me that supplementing with iron is not going to fix the problem. So would taking the horse version (like smartenergy) work? Of course in lower levels. I couldn’t find a comparable human supplement.
When I had anemia, I took the prescribed iron, and it worked just fine.
As for taking horse meds, well, we fairly commonly broke little chunks of bute to cure hangovers back in the day and here I still am, so I wouldn’t say don’t, but I bet you can find some similar human product.
No.
Listen to your doctors. They know how to treat these conditions.
Taking iron will in fact cure anemia if it is the correct type of iron taken in the correct dosages. Just do what your doctor prescribes.
Magic supplements are most likely not going to help the problem and may in fact make it worse.
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When I had anemia, I took the prescribed iron, and it worked just fine.
As for taking horse meds, well, we fairly commonly broke little chunks of bute to cure hangovers back in the day and here I still am, so I wouldn’t say don’t, but I bet you can find some similar human product.[/QUOTE]
Bute causes aplastic anemia in humans as well as nasty things like agranulocytosis and liver failure, which is why it was pulled off the market by the FDA for use in humans. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not take your horse’s bute for any reason!
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Bute causes aplastic anemia in humans as well as nasty things like agranulocytosis and liver failure, which is why it was pulled off the market by the FDA for use in humans. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not take your horse’s bute for any reason![/QUOTE]
Tylenol causes liver damage (and has killed infants) and Ibuprofene causes kidney problems…
Regardless, take the iron, eat some liver, if you don’t trust the supplements. I am pretty sure the iron can be had - except for severe cases - cheaper than horse stuff.
(and no, Mono isn’t a Teenager thing. I was well into adulthood when I got it, and no, it wasn’t from kissing either! And a bear to have! Took me nearly a year to get over it!)
OP, I hope they are also checking Vitamin D levels.
In our hyper protective society, too many people are not getting enough sunlight. That, too, can make you feel worn out!
They don’t cause these problems in normal doses. You have to take four times the amount of tylenol one would normally take (4 grams +) to start worrying about getting sick. You need to take around 5 grams of ibuprofen before you start having a problem (the normal dose is 200-400mg)
Bute was pulled off the market for humans because it was giving people aplastic anemia and other nasties at normal dosages. Not comparable. Stay out of your horse’s bute.
Oops double post
I think I need to go to a specialist to check vitamin and adrenals. My doctor did a frown when I mentioned wanting to get tested for vitamins. When results came, he just said ‘they are within the parameters’. I didn’t get to see the results.
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I think I need to go to a specialist to check vitamin and adrenals. My doctor did a frown when I mentioned wanting to get tested for vitamins. When results came, he just said ‘they are within the parameters’. I didn’t get to see the results.[/QUOTE]
All the doc does is draw blood, the tests are at the lab.
Still, maybe time for a new doc?
(My doc is a doc in the box, they took the time to call me on my vacation to give me the lab results! So, really, specialist not required at this level, and the Mono results came back really quick.)
With the mono thing, the best advice I can give you is to rest! (Mono and Vit. D deficiency coincided for me…I guess it’s about the same as anemia…NO ENERGY…it sucked!)
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They don’t cause these problems in normal doses. You have to take four times the amount of tylenol one would normally take (4 grams +) to start worrying about getting sick. You need to take around 5 grams of ibuprofen before you start having a problem (the normal dose is 200-400mg)
Bute was pulled off the market for humans because it was giving people aplastic anemia and other nasties at normal dosages. Not comparable. Stay out of your horse’s bute.[/QUOTE]
Exceeding the normal dose is really easy, especially when you take more than one medicine, or are a chronic user.
Like I said, infants have died from Tylenol overdose…it’s the go-to pain killer for the little ones.
Yes, The past month I have had absolutely no energy, and have been sleeping a lot. On top of that I keep getting really bad vertigo (Bad enough I couldn’t ride quite a few days)
Bute was removed from the human market due to liver problems.
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Bute was removed from the human market due to liver problems.[/QUOTE]
This was an issue, but it was the aplastic anemia that got it pulled. Look it up. It was happening with regular dosages.
I did.
A lot of adults have died from Tylenol ODs too. My mom was an RN in ICU and saw it a lot. People take too much of a prescription painkiller, or mix meds that all contain it, and it’s the Tylenol added up in it that kills them. And Tylenol OD is a very painful way to go, according to her. So there’s that. I am always careful to watch taking multiple things with acetemeniphen (sp?) in them.
As for taking horse meds, no, but I have ordered human stuff from Uckele before and been happy. And I have tested a lot of horse supps and meds for taste to see if I thought my horses would eat them!
OP, get a copy of your labs, they are yours to have!
Also, sometimes we forget how tired (and dizzy) we can get from lack of sodium, electrolytes, etc. Make sure you are hydrating properly, not just drinking plain water.
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A lot of adults have died from Tylenol ODs too. My mom was an RN in ICU and saw it a lot. People take too much of a prescription painkiller, or mix meds that all contain it, and it’s the Tylenol added up in it that kills them. And Tylenol OD is a very painful way to go, according to her. So there’s that. I am always careful to watch taking multiple things with acetemeniphen (sp?) in them.
As for taking horse meds, no, but I have ordered human stuff from Uckele before and been happy. And I have tested a lot of horse supps and meds for taste to see if I thought my horses would eat them![/QUOTE]
There is a difference between ODing on tylenol when you took four times the recommended dosage and getting aplastic anemia from a normal dosage of bute. And that is what got it pulled, not liver failure:
Yes, of course there is, people had said that infants had died from taking Tylenol and I was just pointing out in addition that lots of adults have died from it too. I was not talking about bute at all. Many people don’t know how unsafe Tylenol can be (that is how they end up accidentally dying from it). I was just sharing a PSA. Many Tylenol ODs are not purposeful.
Well it really is a moot point because banamine is better for hangovers anyway.
Just kidding sort of…
Um…yes, supplementing with iron will solve the problem, assuming it’s the right kind of iron tablets (my hemotologist prefers Vitron C brand-it’s an iron/vitamin C tablet. The C helps with absorption and it’s NOT slow-release; slow-release iron just gets flushed straight out because by the time the pill breaks down it’s in the wrong part of your digestive system.) Eat more meat, especially liver (green vegetables are okay if you’re not on any blood-thinners, but they’re not as efficiently absorbed by humans). If the doctor is prescribing iron, that suggests the blood test shows you’re iron deficient but without other off levels suggesting an underlying problem (my severe aneamia was a symptom, but that was made obvious by other blood cell levels being off as well. And I still had to take iron along with the corticosteroids.)
Most of those horse supplements haven’t been proven to do anything besides create expensive poop and urine in horses. Never mind humans.
