Hot and Sensitive Lines

Which jumper sires are known for producing hot and/or sensitive offspring? In other words, not amateur friendly. That is my preferred ride and would like to find a few options that were down those lines. Probably not more than half TB though Coconut Grove May be a consideration. I’ve seen a lot of Emilion mares that seem to be that way

My girl is Selle Francais up top and can be quite hot/sensitive. While temperament is highly dependent on the individual, and you can’t paint all Selle Francais horses with the same brush, folks are forever telling me that the registry trends towards hot and sensitive types when I reveal her breeding. Galoubet A lines certainly come to mind when you say you want a hot, sensitive jumper…

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I know a Vitaal G mare that is extremely hot and sensitive. Not at all what I would call ammy friendly, but she also still has a brain and is also extremely sweet. She is also a dream on the ground.

I have a Galoubet granddaughter who is sensitive. Her mother (direct daughter) was a pill. I like him in a grandchild though. She is a broodmare, but I put her into work for few months last year after not doing anything since her initial backing 3 years prior, and she started jumping for the first time in the last month. She took to it like a duck to water.

After a handful of sessions she was already at a meter to 1.1 meters and we didn’t go higher then maybe a 1.2 m oxer, because she wasn’t that fit and still needed to learn ALL the other stuff about doing a course, but she LOVED it. So I think there are different kinds of “sensitive.” Some horses I’ve had would fry under pressure and she just gets better, but she’s sensitive in that she won’t put up with bad riding. Definitely not a forgiving lesson-program type of horse, but the trainer loved riding her and so did I after she had been in a consistent program for a couple months. And then I got pregnant. sigh So she’s getting bred again while I have babies.

She is super easy on the ground, but has also been trained to behave. :wink:

I have a few videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/SiouxlandSporthorses

I don’t know what part of her pedigree produced hot and sensitive, but I have a Calido 1 X rantares mare who is quite spooky, and sensitive.

That’s the first one I think of too - hot, sensitive, and international talent for the right rider!

Obviously everyone has their own taste in horses, but I would just like to present some counter points as food for thought.

First of all, many top quality breeding stallions may already tend to the hot side–they have been handled and ridden by professionals since their early days and have not been amateur tested in any way. When people speak about the rideability of a breeding stallion, they are most often referring to how it goes for a professional rider. Therefore, for a stallion to be labelled “hot and sensitive” I would worry that it might be a horse that is difficult even for a professional.

Secondly, I think that while it is pretty typical to think of what you personally want when you breed your mare, I think it is also important to consider some what ifs. You are assuming that you are breeding a jumper for yourself, but what if the horse turns out to not be what you want? Maybe it turns out too small or too big, doesn’t have quite enough scope for you, or has a conformation or other minor defect that makes it unsuitable for serious jumping, or for whatever other reason doesn’t suit you, or what if your life changes (financially, situationally, etc.) and you decide you need to sell the horse. Hot and sensitive non-amateur friendly type horses are notoriously difficult to sell. OTOH, a horse that can be ridden by an amateur is generally very marketable. A rideable jumper that doesn’t quite have enough scope can have a great career as an adult amateur jumper, or as a hunter or eq horse, or even as an event horse. A horse with not enough scope that is a pro-ride doesn’t really have too many career options.

Lastly, there’s a practical point to consider. Some hotter and more sensitive horses are more difficult to train and bring along and require much more investment of time and money, more shows, more experience, etc. to get to the same point as a more “rideable” horse. Also, it’s easier for hotter / more sensitive horses to develop quirks or mental blocks that can stand in the way of success. Many very capable pros choose not to fool with hotter or more difficult horses because time is money.

Thank you for your reply, but my question was not SHOULD I breed this horse, but if I do, what lines should I look for. I’m more than capable of handling and dealing with any given circumstance. Besides that, I’m not looking to breed ONLY hot and sensitive horses, but when looking to pick out broodmares, yes, I want at least one that will probably produce my preferred ride. I have the luxury of owning the stallion, I raised him and produced him, so I know what he is, what he lacks and what areas he shines in. I also know how that applies to what I want in my future horses. The reason I’m asking Chron about horses is because I’m not looking for horses that a professional would label as hot and sensitive, I’m looking for horses that amateurs consider to be that way. I obviously don’t want insane, screw loose types, but yes I do want the type that is not what you would call “ammy friendly”.