Can someone help me understand how classes are pinned? I see several first, second, third…through sixth places and I can’t figure it out. I tried googling but must not ask the right question.
Its been a long time but any show I’ve ever been to hands out the ribbons she you pick up your test sheet. Scores are posted on the scoreboard in batches as they are calculated but the score sheets are not given out until the class is complete.
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Did they split the class to separate Open, Adult Amateur, and Jr/YR?
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Often, yes, in the bigger shows
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Oops… I still don’t think I asked the question correctly. How can there be three first place horses in one class??? And three second place horses in the same class? I don’t see any division for human age, horse height (small, medium or large pony, for example) or anything else.
I think we all posted at the same time. Thank you-
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Can you post an example?
It’s not unusual for a bigger show to offer the same tests on different days with different judges each day. Some shows are run as separate shows each day in order to maximize the chances to get scores for medals.
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Open, Jr, Adult amateur may be pinned separately even though all rode in the same block.
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Thank you, all. I didn’t see the designations of open, JR/YR, or AA initially. Thanks again!
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It is confusing in many show formats when the judge is pinning more than one class at a time! Not just dressage. Eventing does this as well. Everyone riding at the same level rides the same dressage test and courses, sometimes in mixed order of divisions. When the scores are posted, people see the placings by division.
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This sounds like Open, AA, and JR/YR to me. The shows I’m at will distinguish in the showbill which someone is, but they are all mixed together with the “second level test three” class. As an AA I might follow a JR and be followed by an Open rider with another 3 AA’s after the open rider - I think this may make it easier for the front office because they have more flexibility with timing (can put more rides between a horse’s first start time in 2-1 and their second start time in 2-2 so they have more than 38 minutes between rides; or can help avoid scheduling conflicts with a trainer having multiple students, or a trainer riding + coaching).
So you have first place - junior rider; first place - AA; first place - open rider.
Of course you can also have multiple 1’sts if the show runs multiple days and the same class is offered multiple days - but the way you explained it, I’m thinking you were seeing the open/aa/jr.
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Maybe it’s the Danish system?
Every rider who scores in a certain percentage window gets a certain ribbon color. For example:
Blue: 67% or higher
Red: 62%-66.999%
Yellow: 57%-61.999%
White: 52%-56.999%
Pink: 47%-51.999)%
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How interesting!
Are you score stalking on Equestrian Hub?
They will have say 2nd level test 1 and you’ll see both the open and the amateur in the same list. So if there are 4 open riders and 4 amateurs they’ll place the open riders 1 to 4 and then place the amateurs the same way all on the same page.
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Danish system classes aren’t ranked by score or awarded places, though. So there’s no first, second, third, etc.
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perhaps the OP saw ribbon colors and assumed they meant placings?
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No…the results listed three different individuals as being pinned first. Someone up thread mentioned Open, AA, and JR/YR divisions. Upon further investigation, I discovered that was indeed it- was listed on the entry but not the results.
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I’ve also never seen the Danish system used in the US. The OP has already figured it out, but Equestrian Hub and other online dressage scoring systems group all three divisions under the same category and then rank them individually. For example, if you clicked on 1st level test 3 it would list everyone who showed at that level and then rank the Open, Ammy, JR riders in a list going down with a possibility of 3 first place riders. If you’ve never seen it done that way it can be a bit confusing.
Our club hosts two smaller schooling shows each year. We score Danish system – it is quick and easy, and riders don’t need to wait around until the end of the day to get their tests and placings. It’s a win-win for everyone.
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Yeah - I’ve only seen it used for club events in Pony Club and 4H in the US.
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