How do I tell a friend to stop training my horse?

”Hey, thanks, Mom is ready to start trail riding him now and she is confident he doesn’t need anymore training”. That should be enough.

Curious, where is she doing this training? Where you both board? At your place? At her place? If it’s your place or same boarding barn, you need to mention to everybody friend is no longer working with horse. If it’s at her place…good luck with that.

Why does this 15 yo pleasure riding horse need to be harassed in the round pen so Mom can go trail riding? How did you get talked into that one? Could see taking him on a few trail rides and refreshing mounting manners and such, CA not so much, friend just wants to do CA on whatever horse she can get hold of regardless if it will benefit or not. And it’s not so needs to stop.

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I think the “you and the horse aren’t gelling” is the best way. I’m working with a horse now that is a overuse of the whip victim. I don’t ride with one but will carry one around when I hand graze him and rub him and scratch him with it. I want him to get over his fear but don’t plan on riding with one ever.

Use plain English. Something on the line of, “I’ve been reviewing our progress with Old Clomper and I’m not satisfied with the way things are going. So, for the time being, I think we should stop our current work while I do some research and decide what is the best way to proceed into the future. So let’s stop any training sessions and let him settle while I look at new directions.”

No blame being directed at anyone, very non-specific reasons, nobody need get their feelings hurt. And no reason to engage in long defenses of your actions. Make it short, simple, and direct without being confrontational.

And then do as you say you are going to do! Look at various systems of training and decide what is going to work best with BOTH you and the horse. There are many roads to Rome; pick the one that works the best for YOU!

If this doesn’t work then you can lay down the law (“Keep you G. D. hands off my horse!”).

Best of luck as you go forward.

G.

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Thank her for her past help, but just tell her you prefer to work this horse on your own from now on.

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Sounds to me like horse is being UN-trained, from a fearless trail horse to a worried animal. Friend must stop it NOW. You know what to do, OP, and you’ve got lots of good suggestions how to approach it!

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I need more facts please.
If the horse is already trained and fearless on trails, why did you think he needed more training? What else does he need to know before your mom starts riding him?
And why did you think someone relatively new to horses was the person to teach him?
I’m asking because if he really doesn’t need more training then the easiest solution is to say “Hey, Mama wants her horse back now.” Then it’s all on Mama and your friend shouldn’t be upset with anyone.
If he does need more training, then you need some help finding a trainer in your area, right? COTH can probably help. And then you can say “Mama wants to send Mr Ed to Denny down the road. Thanks for everything though!”

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First, try to put yourself in her shoes. She probably thinks she’s donated a lot of time to training her friends’ horse, for free (because that’s how so many ammie trainers’ minds work), and I suspect she’s not going to react well to any criticism. So I’d leave any negative comments out of it. IOW, you’re not banning her from working with the horse because her training isn’t working, but only because your Mom, or you, want to do it all yourselves from now on.

Make sure you put the “all” in there or she may want to continue to help.

If that doesn’t go well then there’s not much else you can do but insist that she stay away from the horse from now on, because it’s your job to protect your horse from the misguided. And as far as I’m concerned, anyone who doesn’t do things the way I want them done is misguided, and I won’t tolerate them touching my horses.

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you need to teach your horse it’s okay for someone mounted to have a whip. What if something happens to you, horse get moved on, rider mounts up and has a stick, horse loses it’s shit, someone is hurt or killed?

Riding with a stick is normal, like getting on the trailer or knowing how to stand for the farrier or tacking up. you owe it to your horse to fix the holes and damage in his training.

15 years old… agree with the Dobbin seems pretty settled in now approach. a simple I think me and my mom can take it from here. Thanks (but no thanks) for your help. If we need your help again (not) I’ll give you a holler.

Clearly that’s what she’s working on. I don’t ride my horse with a stick due to the same issues. We are working on it, but once she gets to the point of being okay with a stick, I probably still won’t ride her with one.

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Please reread her post, that’s clearly what she’s doing. It takes time. Some horses will NEVER be ok with it (think horses out of the questionable Arabian halter barns). No need to be judgemental.

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THIS!!! HANDS OFF MY HORSE!!

It will be interesting to hear where the OP is now with her friend and the ‘training’. She’s had a few days for a conversation.

OP, part of life is that relationships change over time. Sometimes you have to establish boundaries, push back on someone who is being a bit pushy. You can’t keep everyone’s feelings the same all of the time, because there will always be factors on both sides that change things.

From your post I can tell that you are feeling increasingly uncomfortable with your friend, because of your friend’s actions. So doing nothing won’t save the friendship because your feelings are changing.

You have already asked her for change, and she is not respecting your request. She is taking control of something that is yours - both your horse, and your preference for how your horse is handled.

When you ask her to stop, you have to take back that control. If she’s someone who prefers to be the boss then it will be a bit tough. But at this point if you don’t take control back, you are effectively giving the horse to her to do as she wishes.

And there is no point in trying to convince your friend that her methods are not right for this horse. That’s not the basis for your discussion with her. You are telling her that it’s your horse (or else that you have the primary responsibility for the horse) and this change is your decision. If you think that she won’t take that kindly, then she’s not a great friend. A good friend will respect your feelings above her whims toward your horse.

A little bit of distance between you now may help establish a better footing for your friendship in the future, when you initiate more cordial communications again.

Also … if she is defying your request now, you may have to remove from her access anything of yours that she is using. Is she using her equipment or yours? If yours, put it in your car and keep it there until this is sorted out. Because she has already shown that she does not respect boundaries and your wishes, so you need to establish some physical boundaries as well.

The other point is – have you SEEN what she does each time she works with the horse? Your post #1 is interpreting what must be going on based on the horse’s behavior. But that isn’t the firmest ground for discussing this with your friend.

So I would ASK your friend first what she is doing with the horse, and see what she has to say. And/or, be out there when she is and see for yourself what she does. Only then would I know definitely what she is doing with training.

I have to agree with previous posters that, assuming your friend is changing the horse’s behavior, it seems unnecessary with such an established horse. It could be that your friend is anxious to use her training techniques on some horse, and yours is available, so that’s why she’s doing what she’s doing.

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@findeight nails it. Just thank the friend for her contribution. Say the training is at an end and move on. Any extra information about how the friend’s training is deficient, making the horse scared, etc. is excess information. The friend will likely feel insulted and there is a good chance it will end badly.

Thank her. Tell her this phase of horsey’s journey has been completed and you are moving on to the next phase.

OP have you had the discussion yet with your friend? I would do it sooner rather than later. I wouldn’t want this to continue on any longer than necessary if my horse were starting to behave in the ways you say he is. Let us know how it goes!