I may be missing something. Do you still own this filly?
No, she got claimed.
It says they “had no problem” with the knowledge that she was going to be claimed, then they mentioned she’s running now in the US. Seems clear to me that they do not own her any longer.
@MHT?
Em
You are correct. I have seen her listed for sale by her current owners, but she is still running. I so want to go on their ad and suggest that she never be used as a broodmare, because of the obviously hereditary bleeding. She is decently bred, and if it wasn’t for the bleeding we would probably have kept her as a broodmare ourselves.
Archive.org has a big library of Daily Racing Forms dating back from the late 1800s to 1959. The blurb on the Useeit claim is on the front page of the 24 Feb 1916 edition. Basically it cites the rule then says that AW Hoots and Useeit were ruled off the track because he refused to give her up,
I’m surprised you think it is strange. The only thing strange is how much money most of us choose to spend on horses, and in the overall scheme, a few thousand is nothing. We all know that the purchase price is often dwarfed by the cost of keeping a horse. I too have spent thousands on a horse I’d never seen, not to race or breed, for purely sentimental reasons because she was the daughter of one of my mares. In my case, she was free but I paid to hold (board) her until I could arrange shipping, and the board and cross-country shipping amounted to thousands before I even set eyes on her. In the overall scheme of things, a few more thousand would not have been a deal breaker.
Many horse owners, even those who are professionals and have a successful business making money on horses, have at least one sentimental money pit sitting in a field burning hay and cash for its maintenance and care. Only the lucky or savvy horse people avoid spending buckets on their horses and actually make a profit; horses are a giant money sink for most of us and I’m surprised to be writing this as it is so obvious to most owners.
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And this post was supposed to make me think it’s not strange to spend thousands on a horse you’ve never seen?
Good luck, OP, I hope you get your horse.
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@va2txrider any updates?
I see this thread bumped and I keep hoping to see that you were able to get the horse you wanted.
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I don’t think it’s any more or less a part of the horse business as when I imported my 2 boys from England. Had only seen videos and paid about as much as a decent upper level claimer/cheap allowance horse. Didn’t bother me in the slightest. Now of course I was able to vet them but still… bought sight unseen.
Em
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The videos and the vet exam disqualify you from the scenario in the original post.
I disagree. I watched more than 8 videos of Gin’s past races before I offered to buy him. (Off of those videos and his appearance in Win photos etc)
Em
If you go back and read the original post, the OP did not watch any videos, knows little about racing, and was thinking about going to claim the horse literally sight unseen. No pictures, no videos, no vet, no nothing. I’m not sure what you are trying to argue about, but you admit to watching videos and work in racing, so you are not in the same position as the OP.
Palm Beach, in post #8 I replied that I had watched videos of the mare from Equibase. I also own the dam, so 50% of the genetics are known to me. This particular mare is a warhorse, and if she can race as many times as she has, she has proven that she is sound, more than any pre-purchase exam will tell me. I don’t want the mare for racing, so my knowledge of racing does not matter. I will pursue other avenues, as claiming seemed to be a much more difficult route anyways.
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OP let me know if I can help in anyway, I trained at Penn for more than a decade so have many contacts.
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Come on PB. if you’re going to act all high and mighty with me please at least get the minutiae right. I USED to work in racing. Now I work at a vet hospital.
And to be clear I was trying not to say I was the same as the OP but was responding to @PeteyPie.
Plus I think we have a LONG history of established proof that what many of us do/feel comfortable doing/ or plan to do is not something you would do. But then some of us are not in it just for the numbers. We actually like horses. And spend unreasonable time and money enjoying them and it makes our lives happy.
Em
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My bad. I guess I should stalk more.
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A happy update. I had actually called the trainer a year ago and told them I was interested in taking the mare when she retired, and then texted last fall when the mare had a DNF race (although I saw a video of her cantering quietly across the finish line, so she was not injured), but did not hear back. She ran in February and finished second in a $4000 claiming race, and was scheduled to run again in March (when I posted) but was scratched. This past Friday, the trainer called me up (the very same day that my vet told me that her dam was probably too old to rebreed), and offered me the mare for free. She just shipped in today, and she is lovely. Silver Silence raced 65 times and won $264,000. Her dam is Cozzene x Stage Door Johnny, uphill build, huge bone, and large feet with thick hoof walls - and looks like a TB out of a Stubbs painting. Now (per my post in Sporthorse Breeding), I am hoping she lets down fairly quickly so that I can still try to breed her this spring. She is currently at my repro vets and will get checked out. Thanks all for the advice - glad I waited!
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