How do you haul your cart around? Pic attached

[IAPonyGirl]

Can so which I had modified into a 3 horse slant. I haven’t tried it yet but I wonder if the cart could go in the trailer somehow after I load my pony. The shafts I suppose could stick out the back door because its open on the top. Would this be a wierd way to do it?

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[pricestory]

I have an 18’stock but mine is a gooseneck. I can put the cart in first, shafts in the gooseneck, then the pony.
A friend has a 3 horse slant and has had a devil of a time getting it set up. She puts the pony in first, then the cart with the shafts over the top of the pony. It requires 2 people and a lot of contraptions and still moves around. Her’s isn’t a stock and she can’t stick the shafts out the door. How big is your horse? Can you put the vehicle in first, with the shafts over the horse? I like being able to get to my pony without having to move a vehicle. Since I have always had a gooseneck, I haven’t used the truck bed often (only with no horse, taking the vehicle for repair, etc) but you do have to be careful or it can really eat up the roof of the truck. I’ve seen folks use pool noodles on the shafts to help protect. Can you move it past the wheelwells so you can close the tailgait? I would think that would be safer.

[49_er]

You may be able to remove your front 2 dividers. Put two eyebolts or rings fromthe roof to hang a dropped bar (PVC with a rope?) across. Load your cart first with the shafts pointing towards the back and resting on the pole. Have a couple of rings on the floor or lower sides to tie the cart down. The shafts may come over the back of the horse in the last slot, but should not be a problem. You will need a set of ramps. The only major problem is that sometimes the hubs on these carts may be too wide to go thru the door,especially a 6’ wide trailer.

[IAPonyGirl]

ok, great suggestions, I’ll try putting the cart into the trailer first then. I do have a set of ramps already for getting the John Deere lawn mower into my trailer to haul it in for service. My pony is a connemara, 14.2H. This idea sounds much better than putting the cart into the bed of the truck.

Thanks.

[HackneyHorseDriver]

I also use a stock trailer and find it to the be most verstile for take a two wheel or four wheel carriage and horse. My next one will be longer and I saw a set up for adding stall dividers to the last section to haul a pair.

For the carriage in the back of the truck we have several clients that have no other way to haul a carriage but this way as they have two horse bumper pulls. You need to pull the carriage farther forward to close the tailgate. We built a set of blocks that sit just behind the wheel well, we use a load bar to hold the blocks to the bed side wall. Add a ski rack to the roof of the truck, wrap the shafts with polo wraps or pool noodles to protect them, bungie the shafts down to the rack. Tie the cart with two ties forward and on from the axle to the bumper. So you don’t get any vibration rub marks ties should be done at an angle to not interfer with the cart. If you have a removable floor mat or seat that doesn’t tie down remember to put them iside the trailer.

Good luck.

[nj2]

We have it set up to either haul a cart in the pickup bed (short bed) or in the 19 ft long BP trailer.
If its in the truck - the shafts go up over the cab - as you have done but we run a strap around the tailgate to lift it up to avoid the hitch post of the trailer. It has worked well for us for a good 25+ years and only had it fall out of the strap once in that time.

Now we also haul the cart inside the trailer. It goes into the nose of the trailer - wheels first. There is a bar across the trailer about halfway and we have double-sided LONG velcro straps that bind the shafts up to that bar. The cart is tied from the axle to the front of the trailer and from the crossbar brace (open-metal-triangle bracket on our cart) to the floor infront of the cart, The tips of the shafts go over the horses heads (straight load) but we’ve had no problem with this

[twofatponies]

Just FYI if you put a horse in first and then the cart, with shafts over the horse’s head/back, horsie may be slightly surprised or worried the first time. I’ve done it this way, and I’ve also hauled the cart on a landscaper’s trailer towed behind our other car.

[IAPonyGirl]

If you looked at my pic, will I be ok if I put the cart in first, close both dividers, then put my pony in the very back? My trailer also has a walk-in tack room. When I modified it from the stock combo, we took out the mangers, welded in a solid slant wall, then put in 2 dividers to make it a 3 horse slant. I guess my question is load-wise, if I put the pony in the very back, he will be behind the trailer axles, does this put too much uneven load on the hitch or balll?

[nj2]

Cant guarantee this answer because trailers are built differently
but our 19foot BP open trailer was designed and built for the horses to be in the tail end of the trailer. We haul 2 draft cross 1400lb big boys
I would think that hauling 1 pony is not going to put that tremendously much weight in an ackward spot to unbalance the trailer AND you will have weight of equipment in the front for counter balance

My question - if you have a welded in solid wall, how will you get the cart into the front of the trailer, or will this be a modification?

[IAPonyGirl]

[QUOTE=nj2;3318610]
Cant guarantee this answer because trailers are built differently
but our 19foot BP open trailer was designed and built for the horses to be in the tail end of the trailer. We haul 2 draft cross 1400lb big boys
I would think that hauling 1 pony is not going to put that tremendously much weight in an ackward spot to unbalance the trailer AND you will have weight of equipment in the front for counter balance

My question - if you have a welded in solid wall, how will you get the cart into the front of the trailer, or will this be a modification?[/QUOTE]

The solid wall separates the walk-in tack room from where you load up the horses in the 3 horse slant part. I probably created confusion in trying to describle things, but the cart cannot fit in the tack compartment, it has to go in the part behind that where you load the horses, so if I load the cart in first where the first horse would go, close that divider, leave spot 2 empty, close the 2nd divider and put my pony in the last spot, it just might work. My shafts are not too long and you are right, he does not weigh alot, only about 850 lbs. right now, so it should be ok. The trailer is steel and weighs 3125 lbs. I’m pulling with a 3/4 ton.

[kearleydk]

trailer balance

Since your trailer is not too heavy and the pony is not too heavy I would add weight to the front of the trailer in the tack room to keep every thing balanced.

When all loaded up you still want a couple of hundred pounds of down pressure at the hitch. You could drag the bathroom scale out to check this by putting it under the trailer jack. You DON"T want the trailer trying to lift off the ball. Not only is uplift dangerous as far as coming uncoupled but also it will likely cause the trailer to fishtail at some point as your speed increases.

[Thomas_1]

[QUOTE=IAPonyGirl;3316694]
Can someone with experience take a look at what I’ve got and recommend the best way for me to haul my road cart around? [/QUOTE]
No matter what you have to transport your horses and carriage, you need to ensure that the horses are nearest to the way out. So if you’ve a rear load trailer or truck, the carriage goes on first and the horse/s at the back so that if there’s an emergency, you can get them out first and quickly.

I have 2 horse boxes. Different sizes because I drive multiples and so sometimes am transporting 4 horses and 2 vehicles or else just a pair and single vehicle.

The shafts were up over the cab of the pick up, I couldn’t close the tail gate.
Not good at all. Indeed in the UK that would be illegal and you’d get pulled up very quickly.

At the driving barn they use ramps to get the carts up in a truck. Is this the way you do it?
Yes. I’ve an electric winch fitted to the floor of the truck and its got a hook on to attach to the undercarriage of the vehicle. The winch has a long cable and switches which you can operate from outside. Ramps are put on the tailgate. I lock the turning wheel on the carriage and the winch hauls the carriage up and all I have to do is ensure the wheels stay on the ramps. Saves a lot of hard work and sore backs! Once the carriage is in the truck then chocks are put under the wheels to stop it moving - though it stays attached to the winch hook.

I always transport with shafts or pole off the vehicle and hung up inside the truck to save damage.

A partition then goes in front of that and the horses go on next and the tail gate is shut for travelling.

[ironbessflint]

Piping in to say I was hoping for pictures of it in pieces in the back of your SUV