Title says it all.
Kahseek and I have no clue who this horse is, sorry.
LOL, there is a parrot species, caique, that is pronounced “kii-eek”, so I was thinking that “Cacique” would be close to that. Maybe not.
He’s a Holsteiner stallion.
Pronounced “cas-seek” He is a lovely stallion. I have known him his entire life. Very nice. He did well at his testing and has produced some lovely foals.
Yes, it’s ka-seek.
He’s a lovely horse. I’ve seen him go several times (when Elizabeth was riding him). He was a little bit of a handful on occasion as a youngster (aren’t many young stallions?), but he really matured into a first rate dressage horse.
Nice, solid breeding too.
Really nice stallion … Cambridge / Linaro. I have a very nice daughter.
Thank you, all of you :). (and more input is welcomed!)
[QUOTE=Mickey the Marcher;5591214]
The proper Spanish pronunciation is Ka-SEE-kay, (click highlighted text to hear).[/QUOTE]
Excellent!
That is a nice looking horse. However I was under the impression that the word is French and would have the little cedille under the second letter c, which would in turn make it be pronounced kahseek.
I consulted Google and of course just learned that it also is a Spanish word. I hope now that Sonesta will fill us in, do his people consider and pronounce his name the French way or the Spanish way? That is a beautifully proportioned horse by the way, great conformation!
If this name is to be pronounced like in french, then it is KA (the A pronounced like in ASH (without the SH), then the pronounciation of SEEK is very close to CIQUE. So CA-CIQUE is like KA-SEEK (with the A as in ASH). The E at the end is silencious.
[QUOTE=sdlbredfan;5591241]
That is a nice looking horse. However I was under the impression that the word is French and would have the little cedille under the second letter c, which would in turn make it be pronounced kahseek.
I consulted Google and of course just learned that it also is a Spanish word. I hope now that Sonesta will fill us in, do his people consider and pronounce his name the French way or the Spanish way? That is a beautifully proportioned horse by the way, great conformation![/QUOTE]
The word is Spanish, of native American origin. It is not French, despite what many people seem to think.
There is a fairly well known TB stallion/racehorse of recent years with the same name. His too was often pronounced as if it were French (though that may have to do with the fact he started his racing career in France before coming to the USA).
His owners say “kah-seek”
The Mexican cheese product of the same name is pronounced ka-SEEK-aye. But I saw him as a yearling at the home of his breeder (Wah’Kon-Tah), and they also called him ka-SEEK.
The pronounciation in that audio is correct, if you speak spanish.
The word in spanish means indian, as in native indian, indian leader or indian lord.
I would say Cacique is similar to what Chief means in English.
I have not heard that word in french, just in spanish and it is a common spanish name for horses, just as Chief is for paints here.
Now, how did the one that named him meant that word?
Who knows, they may just have liked the word itself.
The breeder, Ed Wallace, has Native American blood, as evidenced by the farm name (Wah’Kon-Tah=the great mystery), so that makes sense.
[QUOTE=Sonesta;5591720]
His owners say “kah-seek”[/QUOTE]
Thank you Sonesta! That is what really matters to me :). I wanted to be able to say their horse’s name without embarrassing myself.
Thank you to those of you who have helped me here as well as those of you who have PMed me. This forum is a wealth of information and research help!
I have a mare from his first foal crop in 2003 who I’ve been very happy with. She was Premium Select and Site Champion Mare at her approvals with AHHA with 52 bonits. She was very slow to mature (which I’ve heard of other Cacique offspring too), so I didn’t do much with her till she was 4. I bred her ET as a 4 yo so I could start her under saddle and showed her in dressage as a 5 year-old - just Training/First Level stuff, but she did very well. Super easy to show - stepped off the trailer at her first show and basically looked around and said “no big deal.” Also free-jumped her at home and she free-jumped 4’6" easily - I haven’t tried her any higher. I was so pleased with her first foal via ET (by Lordship) that I put her into my breeding program full-time. She’s had two more foals for me so far - a very nice yearling by L. King Arthur and a colt about 3 weeks ago by Bugatti Hilltop who I’m excited to watch as he matures. I’ve recently started her 2008 colt under saddle and he’s been great (but also very slow to mature).
She’s a very athletic mare and one of the most naturally balanced horses I’ve been around. Did auto-flying changes less than 30 days under saddle. Very refined, which she’s consistently passed on - that’s been a bit of a surprise, because her dam (Alcatraz/Fernando) is heavier and none of her other offspring have been nearly as refined, so I think that came from Cacique. She was always very easy to ride and show, but doesn’t have the friendliest personality out there - but her 2008 colt is the sweetest horse you can imagine, and the yearling is also very sweet - so I think a lot of that is just a very strong “mare” personality.
Pics of my mare at http://fridayschildfarm.com/Tiny_Dancer.htm and you can follow the links to see her offspring too.
