How many of you didn't fence to your property line? FOR SALE!!

[PNWjumper]

[QUOTE=TheJenners;8932353]
They are, but my minis are only 31" tall. Not a match for this dog, if it’s this big as a puppy. Honestly… I think it’s a hybrid. Added concern.[/QUOTE]

Probably malamute (not husky) x shepherd, which doesn’t seem to be an unusual cross and can be massive. We have a malamute/shepherd/wolf and he’s very unique looking. Crazy long legs and very skinny. Also a great farm dog, FWIW, but weighs a lot less than the malamute x shepherds I’ve seen. Just adding that to assuage your fears that huge = hybrid. .

But if you can’t afford to do full no climb fencing, run a bottom strand of hot. How many strands of fence are hot on the existing fence that the dog is going through? I have 4-strand electric on part of my property, but only the top and 3rd wire are hot. A dog could easily get through without getting shocked. So it might be worth checking because it could be as simple as making another strand hot.

[TheJenners]

I did image searches and his face is very narrow.

And he lopes like a wolf.

I don’t care beyond his desire to go over a fence. Boundary is 4 strands of polyhot, and I saw yesterday there are now regular hot wire strands as well. So my guess is they didn’t or couldn’t hook up the existing?

Eta: searches of various husky breeds and crosses.

[TheJenners]

[QUOTE=Equibrit;8932237]
Set your fence inside the property line and grow something really prickly behind it. Hawthorn is always good.
https://thecrimepreventionwebsite.com/garden-boundaries-fences-and-defensive-plants/618/defensive-plants-shrubs-and-trees-shrub-fences/[/QUOTE]

What a cool Web site!!! :yes: :lol: I’m sharing this with friends.

[JanM]

It’s going to be tough to get a proven trespasser off your property. I would put another string of high powered electric on the bottom of the inner fence, to keep this animal from forcing his way under.

[JanM]

I’ve seen some massive GSDs in the past few years, so I’m betting GSD x Mal cross would equal huge, the way this dog is described.

[TheJenners]

JanM you might have missed it, I posted a couple pics from yesterday.

Side view

Front view

Regardless, I don’t care as long as he leaves my animals alone. Playing with the 15 mos old Aussie is fine as long as it’s play, but getting aggressive with my old man is unsat. Since I’m out with my dogs and the old dog never leaves my side, he’ll be getting booted for that behavior. My only concern was if he is a hybrid, will it increase his desire to jump my fence and fine upon my tasty burritos.

[PNWjumper]

I missed the pics too. He looks like a young mal x shepherd cross. I don’t think he screams hybrid, and I don’t think he looks that big. But then I wouldn’t make the assumption with my dog either if I didn’t actually know his parentage and the moron who had the (small %) hybrid male that impregnated his neighbor’s mal. One thing he DOES look like is a dog that I wouldn’t want to have roaming my property.

FWIW, my Mal/Shep/Wolf has zero desire to eat animals. Actually, he has a much more shepherd-like view of animals than my straight Siberian Husky did (she was a cold-blooded murderer). Also, if he’s been roaming and you’re not hearing about missing cats (etc.) I wouldn’t automatically assume that he’s aggressively going after anything.

The thing that would worry me the most is the more aggressive aspect of the fact that he’s in tact and how that changes the dynamic with your dogs (and all other dogs).

Ugh. I hate irresponsible dog owners! We have a person living behind us who feels that her dogs should be able to roam the neighborhood. They’re big and they’ve threatened several kids walking to/from the busstop and joggers. They haven’t come onto our property yet (I’m assuming because our 4 board fence isn’t terribly inviting for a big dog to wriggle under or through), but you can be that if they do I’ll be calling animal control. The worst part is that she’s a horse person and someone that I would expect to understand the unwritten rules of neighbors. Keep thine dogs to thyself.

Have I mentioned how much I hate irresponsible dog owners? “In tact” and “roaming” shouldn’t be allowed to exist in the same sentence.

[TheJenners]

Exactly. And the fact that the dog had zero recall to the owner who has not had it long enough for manners to be installed and yet allows it off-leash… When it came over the first time, he was calling and calling from the fence and nada. I observed this for a while, then called my dog, he came over and I snagged this dog and took it to the gate. My fence guy was yelling “hang on Jenn!!!” because I nearly went skiing a few times. I’m 5’3’’ and it came to my hip, and it stood up and hit my glasses with his nose while I was standing straight.

When it came over the second time, he never noticed and when I left 10 min later the dog hadn’t returned home and the owners were still out working on something and hadn’t noticed. This does not bode well.

As for intact, there is time to change that. It’s nine mos old. I neutered Wesley at 10 months because I was waiting for him to get a little more masculine looking… He was (and is) a very pretty feminine-looking dog. But he was not permitted to wander and I kept tabs on him if he was off-leash.

[enjoytheride]

I would at least purchase a fence tester and test their fence on a regular basis, that way you know if their fence is being kept hot and it might give you a little peace of mind to know that your neighbor isn’t a total tool.

[JanM]

Wow! After looking at the pictures, if that age is accurate, he’s going to be bigger than the burritos. That is a wolf looking face, so I guess husky is accurate, except I haven’t seen a husky cross that’s that big. I’m betting that the reason the dog was available was the wandering, and that’s obviously not going to stop with a clueless owner.

I hate that you’re stuck with this guy next door.

[TheJenners]

Definitely getting a fence tester!

[snowrider]

Looks like a hybrid to me too and I have a shepherd husky cross. It’s immaterial though, my (other) sled dog mix is more feral and murderous than any dog I’ve ever met, she’s like a big cat. She listens to me perfectly well but she’s never out of my sight for a reason. And that reason is I don’t trust her ass. Your neighbors are going to get that dog shot by letting it roam.

[TheJenners]

I talked to the ACO about it and she was also more concerned about the roaming husky part than the hybrid part, even though she agreed the “head piece” (she owns and shows dogs, love her vernacular in situations like this!) looked hybrid. She said if it was part husky, intact, and roaming, it was going to kill people’s sheep and chickens. She asked if I was getting any of those two animals and I said no, but I was worried about my donkeys. She agreed that a four- or even five-foot fence won’t stop him at that size :(. We discussed the laws, she said I can’t send it home with paintball marks but I absolutely can shoot it. I asked about the law only stipulating “livestock” and not also “pets” for killing dogs that are “chasing, biting, injuring or killing.” She said protecting my dogs is also fine.

She wanted to come down and talk to him, I said no, not yet.

[ElementFarm]

how about an airsoft gun? it would hurt, but wouldn’t kill the dog. Similar to paintball, without the paint. They fire little plastic beebees.
I’d get one of those. If your fenceline is built 8+ feet inside your property line, as soon as he even gets close to the fence, if you shot him with the airsoft pellets, maybe it would teach him to not go near the fence? And he’d be on your land, so I would think it would be your legal right?
I don’t envy you the situation… sorry you’re dealing with neighbor issues already.

[DancingArabian]

Sounds like that dog may be better off being relocated a few counties away. He’s just being a dog and all, but that’s how it starts and people end up with a terror, then the dog ends up in a bad way.

[jdobbs64]

you cannot expect hot wire to zap a furry dog. Hair is a terrible conductor. You know that blanketed horses learn to walk through hot fences. That dog is wearing a blanket of fur. It’s not going to work.

S S SU.

[carmen]

We put our fence several feet inside the property line so that if need be we could drive our truck along it and not be on the neighbor’s property (I just think it’s rude to drive on someone else’s land). Our neighbors are quite awesome but still, we wanted to keep it that way. They could just be weird. Do you think they get asked a lot about their accents? I ask b/c husband and I live in the south and my husband is not from here (I’m not either but have picked up the accent more than he has) and he constantly gets asked about his accent and where he’s from and it annoys him. It probably shouldn’t, most people don’t mean anything bad by it, but he finds it intrusive. Maybe they feel that way? But seriously if they have no problem at all with their cows being on your land they are gonna be difficult. When we moved in we had several acres unfenced for awhile and our neighbors asked if we minded if they let their horses graze it. We were fine with it, but most people ASK, they don’t just let their animals wander freely. Ugh.

[JanM]

I bet your neighbor was more than a little irritated when you could grab the dog and take it home. I have the feeling that dog was acquired to be a neighborhood bully, and it isn’t as aggressive as he hoped it would be. When your ACO friend visits him, ask that when they say there have been reports of his dog wandering, she vaguely points down the road to the other neighbors, because I doubt the dog owner will take it well.

Is Rory dog aggressive to strange dogs? Or would he defend the burritos in case of attack?

[Sing_Mia_Song]

[QUOTE=jdobbs64;8933916]
you cannot expect hot wire to zap a furry dog. Hair is a terrible conductor. You know that blanketed horses learn to walk through hot fences. That dog is wearing a blanket of fur. It’s not going to work.

S S SU.[/QUOTE]

Yep-- voice of experience, they need to hit the hot with a mucous membrane (nose or eyelid) before they notice. I have an itinerant Beagle who figured out this spring how to get under no-climb and I ran a hot wire while I was waiting for my lumber delivery to do a bottom board. What a waste of time!

I’d kidnap this dog, put a shock collar on him, and go Clockwork Orange. But SSS might be faster and more effective, especially if the owners are idiots.

[TheJenners]

[QUOTE=JanM;8934048]
I bet your neighbor was more than a little irritated when you could grab the dog and take it home. I have the feeling that dog was acquired to be a neighborhood bully, and it isn’t as aggressive as he hoped it would be. When your ACO friend visits him, ask that when they say there have been reports of his dog wandering, she vaguely points down the road to the other neighbors, because I doubt the dog owner will take it well.

Is Rory dog aggressive to strange dogs? Or would he defend the burritos in case of attack?[/QUOTE]

He is dog aggressive and aggressive in general with HIS donkey (chases the other donkey away) but… he won’t be out with them, I’m separating them for that reason :(. I’ve already done that at my current facility and the donkeys are happier.