[QUOTE=The Centaurian;8924172]
I thought this too, only I was thinking they had something to hide… Am I a bad person? LOL[/QUOTE]
Hahaha… no, and it may be they don’t like cops but. I didn’t notice any more cow patties yesterday so maybe it’s been hooked up. One hopes.
We deliberately put our pasture fence inside the property line by some 15 or more feet. Not because we had any particular problem with neighbors, but knowing that neighbors do change and you don’t know what you will get next! I’m glad we did as the adjacent property that had goats when we first built now have horses instead and they don’t take much care of them or the pasture (magnificent crop of tansy this summer…no manure management ever…horses look very poor:no:). We left the strip between us in mostly native trees and brush to keep a buffer between us and the other places, and I have a track along the pasture fence that I keep clear so I can ride around. My game cameras tell me that the deer, coyote, and other critters like the trail too as they make regular use of it!
OP, I don’t have adjoining neighbors with horses or livestock but have decided to double fence my place anyway, for various reasons.
I’ve actually left a considerable gap between the two fences. I figured rather than having a small strip of dead space that I’d open it up into a small ‘circular’ cross country track.
I put my fence 8’ off the property line - two passes with the mower (60" Kubota) gets it done nicely.
We put up a whole new fence line 10’ off our neighbors on both sides. We only have about 6 acres, but it was the best decision ever!
One of our neighbors is a horse hoarder who doesn’t believe in vaccinations or basic standards of horse care. Knowing that my horses can never talk to hers is a huge weight off my shoulders.
Having a lane of 10’ is wide enough to ride the lawn tractor for mowing, and we also spread manure in there. Any narrower and I don’t think we could make the turn with the spreader. I also walk my daughter on her pony around the lane, and sometimes cool my horse out in it. It definitely gets used a lot!
I don’t know where you are located, but at my old farm in PA, you had to fence 10 feet off the property line- so check your local township ordinance. Part of the original fence at my place was grandfathered in, but any new fencing line had to abide by the 10 foot rule. It will come back to bite you if you sell in the future.
At my new farm, on one side I left a 10 foot run or corridor. Though I understand about not wanting to give up the space- do it. It is so worth it. I just had all of my fencing redone and they came up with a great idea for a parking area, but I needed to loose some pasture. I was so nervous/upset/stressed.
BEST THING I EVER DID. So take that into consideration. Peace of mind is a beautiful thing.
My friend made the mistake of running her fence on the property line 40 years ago. She now has the neighbor from Hades. Neighbor called the police on friend’s mowing crew because they were on neighbor’s property to weed-eat. Yes she told friend they were not allowed on her property any more to weed-eat. Mind you neighbor crosses friend’s driveway to get to part of her property. Oops not allowed to anymore if mowers are not allowed access to the fenceline to weed-eat.
Recently neighbor had old musty hay she didn’t want her horses to eat. So she piled it against friends 3 rail fence where her horses could reach it.
The whole thing has been going down hill for years but has recently come to a head. Now both have lawyers, friend is looking into a restraining order.
Neighbor had gone after numerous other people in the neighborhood.
Give yourself that barrier. Much as you don’t want to lose that space it will make for a much better relationship with the neighbor. As in none needed and piece of mind that your horses won’t interact with their animals.
This is a interesting topic to me because one side of my property is not fenced. The back is and those neighbors put in no-climb, which is great. The other long side is fenced with barbed-wire along the property line. Previous owner put 3-rail horse pasture fencing a few feet inside the property line (we replaced it with no-climb). In the back, along that same barbed wire line, we put Horse Guard tape fence inside that line by a few feet.
I thought that if you didn’t have a fence along the property line - and instead fenced a few feet in - that those feet that you “gave up” could eventually be claimed by the other property owner.
I’m interested in putting up a fence along the one side of my property that is open, but are y’all saying that I should set it a few feet in, even though there is no fence there right now?
We fenced about 12’ inside the line and are grateful for that gap now that we have undesirable neighbors. Now I can plant thorny things all along that run and hide them from view.
[QUOTE=Pocket Pony;8926079]
This is a interesting topic to me because one side of my property is not fenced. The back is and those neighbors put in no-climb, which is great. The other long side is fenced with barbed-wire along the property line. Previous owner put 3-rail horse pasture fencing a few feet inside the property line (we replaced it with no-climb). In the back, along that same barbed wire line, we put Horse Guard tape fence inside that line by a few feet.
I thought that if you didn’t have a fence along the property line - and instead fenced a few feet in - that those feet that you “gave up” could eventually be claimed by the other property owner.
I’m interested in putting up a fence along the one side of my property that is open, but are y’all saying that I should set it a few feet in, even though there is no fence there right now?[/QUOTE]
The key to avoid this is not to “give it up.” You want a paper trail confirming you know your fence is off the line but that you are still claiming it.
If I was refencing and just had an offset (I have an old field fence back in the trees that is my actual line) I would send my neighbors a very polite certified letter explaining the fence line was not the line, permitting them to do anything they were doing on it, and I would mow/maintain it. You need to do this every few years (shorter than the adverse possession law) and retain copies. This strategy works because “hostile” is one of the requirements of that tort, meaning they are using it without consent/permission. If you formally grant permission they fail that element. The certified letter return receipt lets you prove the communication happened.
However, before using this kind of practical, not legal, advice, check with your local attorney to make sure the elements are the same in your state and that you have done everything you need to in order to preserve your claim in your state. This would work for blackletter Tort law but state law can differ a bit, so it is well worth a discussion with a local attorney who knows this area of law.
I have a crappy, rusty old cattle fence around my property in the trees that marks the actual line. Walk your fence regularly so you know what your neighbors are doing on your land.
We left approximately 15’ between our fence and the property line. We keep it mowed. It gives us easy access to the pasture fence from the outside, it is wide enough that the tractor can be turned to work on a fence post or such.
It is also a nice area to walk or ride my horse.
I would do a fence of some type, a few inches inside the property line, and hot enough to keep their animals out, and then the real fence to keep the animals in 10’ or more inside. Maintain the fenced alleyway, and it should keep your animals safe, and you without ulcers.
4 1/2’ fence with a strand of HOT on an offset pigtail insulator 12" inside the top rail should keep your naughty horse from reaching over. You could do a 12" extension straight up top to keep their horse off it too. That way you don’t lose any grazing.
Jennifer
Well.
Went out today to meet the fence guy, and the neighbor’s intact, nine mos old “German Shepherd Husky cross” came over under the fence. The neighbor came over and told me he had gotten it two weeks ago and it was going to be a good dog. I mention that I had been worried it was going to get shocked when it went under the fence but it must not be on? He says it’s on… Mkay. I catch the dog and bring it to a gate and we do a hand off. My dogs I might mention do not go under the fence.
Then, later, it came over again, under the fence. The dog “played” with my younger dog and was very aggressive with my older dog, who was just trying to be between us and then lay down at my feet, by coming over, standing over him and stepping on him with alpha-attempt body language. It eventually ran off out my front gate and disappeared into the other neighbor’s place across the street. This time the owner didn’t notice…
This dog is huge, like to my hip no joke. I’d say the same size as my burritos. I’m verifying with my friend who is the ACO for the county on what I can do if it jumps my no-climb… 
With that coat he has you need a weed burner strength fence to shock the neighbor dog, or do some nasty trick training. I would hate to do that. Our dog is part GSD and something else with an undercoat like that and is pretty immune to the EB fence. Ugh. Good luck.
I thought donkeys are usually pretty aggressive with predators like that?
In any case, I would think with that much room to roam he wouldn’t be too tempted to leap over the no-climb if the no-climb is high enough. Maybe do 5 ft. instead of 4ft?
Honestly it sounds like you need basically an impenetrable barrier from these people.
Set your fence inside the property line and grow something really prickly behind it. Hawthorn is always good.
https://thecrimepreventionwebsite.com/garden-boundaries-fences-and-defensive-plants/618/defensive-plants-shrubs-and-trees-shrub-fences/
I would personally fence this neighbor and their dog and animals out with no climb. Its pretty much a no brainer. Otherwise, get used to the neighbor’s dog.
Law is on my side, we are a fence in and not a fence out state. Additionally, good laws for loose dogs AND the boundary fence meets the definition of a legal fence.
I simply can’t afford (right now) to do an inset no-climb AND a property line no-climb. If I could, it WOULD be a no brainer.
[QUOTE=Ruth0552;8932145]
I thought donkeys are usually pretty aggressive with predators like that?
In any case, I would think with that much room to roam he wouldn’t be too tempted to leap over the no-climb if the no-climb is high enough. Maybe do 5 ft. instead of 4ft?
Honestly it sounds like you need basically an impenetrable barrier from these people.[/QUOTE]
They are, but my minis are only 31" tall. Not a match for this dog, if it’s this big as a puppy. Honestly… I think it’s a hybrid. Added concern.
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