You may not be able to register a horse that traces back to Impressive with the FQHA, but if you breed a foundation mare to a horse that’s heavily foundation bred with maybe just one side going back to Impressive, it is still foundation bred.
www.horsemanpro.com has an interesting article on the subject, which agrees with what fillabeana & her links said: “The American Quarter Horse - Equine Mongrel”.
Here is my old man…Foundation all the way…
Go Leo Tunder Bar-
Sire: Tunder Maker (C.T. Fuller Stud)
Dam: Leo’s Prissy Baby, by Torchy Leo
Super cute stocky 14.3 reining Gelding…
I haven’t checked the links, but as I think I noted earlier in this thread- the tb IS THE ORIGIN of the American Quarter Horse, as well as the American Saddlebred and Standardbred. If you read ‘The Horse in Virginia’ http://www.amazon.com/The-Horse-Virginia-Illustrated-History/dp/0813928168 you’ll get some pretty good information on the subject. Including that way back at the origin of the TB- early race horses (as a function of mares used) were often gaited horses- they gaited to the post, galloped the race, gaited home.
And as I indicated earlier, my AQHA mare’s pedigree goes all the way back through such notables as Diomed and Eclipse to the Godolphiin Arabian and the Byerly Turk.
And to add further to what Fillabeana said- in the 60s, I showed an AQHA stallion in halter and pleasure for a friend (not ‘Appendix’, AQHA) who was, literally, 7/8 TB. Went back to Man O’ War thru War Admiral three different ways. And BTW won a bunch at halter.
How many on here have the privledge of owning a Foundation QH?
Filla, no one is excluding the TB and the appendix registry is proof of that. Once a registry has been established, why not maintain it?
Are you saying that the foundation lines of breeds like quarterhorses, Appaloosas, and even the likes of morgans are not worth independently maintaining?? Many people would argue that some of today’s lines in all those breeds are worlds away from their founding horses.
Even in the thoroughbred world, there’s a lot of debate going on that the thoroughbred of yesterday is not the thoroughbred of today on a number of levels.
The people who “go” for “foundation” lines (or for me personally) don’t want to see what they love get diluted out. For me, it’s the versatility and temperament that count most.
Oh, and the king ranch may have used a lot of TB blood, but I have full confidence that they knew what they were doing. That was still back in a time when horses were used for everyday work. 
No flames, but I’m just a little confused as to how you think AQHA made a mistake accepting these almost pure TB horses and how you think at the same time that the foundation quarter horse thing is crap. Maybe you can elaborate more?? Maybe you would just prefer a different term other than foundation? Once the breed is established, I don’t really see the need for more thoroughbred input. Does that make sense? It isn’t really supposed to work like a warmblood registry, with the exception of the qualified appendix horses…if that makes sense. No on uses a thoroughbred to lighten up a friesian, for instance. And if I’m not mistaken, I believe these foundation registries were partly created to get away from AQHA which allowed the mostly TB quarter horses to be registered (Some one correct me if I am wrong!)
As for the white, I was once told that cowboys didn’t want horses with a lot of white because they have a tendency to sunburn…that could be a wives tale though.
I know I tend to ramble. Hopefully, you understand what I’m actually trying to say. 
How many on here have the privledge of owning a Foundation QH?
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[quote=Vermilion;6379978]… I believe these foundation registries were partly created to get away from AQHA which allowed the mostly TB quarter horses to be registered (Some one correct me if I am wrong!)
AGREED!
As for the white, I was once told that cowboys didn’t want horses with a lot of white because they have a tendency to sunburn…that could be a wives tale though.
I have heard that and also there was a belief that horses that having white was a genetic weakness.
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Fillabeana, me, Beverley, & whoever else posted info that is relevant to your QH topic. You don’t want to learn anything relevant to your “Foundation QHs”? Most people here like to learn & exchange information.
I’m off-topic here only in your own mind.:no:
How many on here have the privledge of owning a Foundation QH?
This was not on topic either, just trying to stir things up.
[quote=Fillabeana;6379547]Let me find my flame suit, here…
OK.
I think the whole “Foundation Quarter Horse” thing is a bunch of crap.
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How many on here have the privledge of owning a Foundation QH?
7HL, your assumption that the QH IS a unique breed, has led us to provide data to the contrary. Did you know the facts of the TB blood in the foundation, as well as other facts in the horsemanpro article? If you did, it seems that you wouldn’t have started this thread without mentioning them.
Why don’t you learn something, for once?
Your blatant SNARK toward me is appalling, as usual.
This is a real simple thread. Probably difficult for some…
How many on here have the privledge of owning a Foundation QH?
Personally, as a quarter horse owner since the mid-60s, I don’t view the ‘foundation’ registry as anything special. One can find the same lines in the AQHA registry. I know which lines I like, and shop accordingly. And thus am not particularly envious of a ‘foundation’ registered horse, mine are just fine, thanks.
Pretty much anybody can create a registry, and the theory is excellent, but the registry is only as good as the knowledge base of those who start it and run it over the years. As an example, my own amateur opinion is that Jack Russell terriers in this country were generally of higher quality than since creation of a registry and later ‘recognition’ of the ‘Parson Russell’ by the AKC. Come to think of it, the AKC registry has ruined a whole lot of really good breeds.
And that is not meant as a knock on the foundation registry, or any other horse registry, just a general observation.
There are foundation lines for other horse breeds. Morgans is the first that comes to mind.
http://foundationmorganhorse.com/
The thread was started with just a simple question. I also though some might share some pictures and pedigrees.
Real Foundation Quarter Horses, the closer to 100% are getting harder to find. Having mares I am always looking.
7HL, I’ve never disclosed to you or to the board whether I own a horse or a hundred horses. Your claim to know my horse situation therefore reveals you to be a sneaky, disrespectiful criminal. How have you acted to try & get private information on me? This is the question which you’ve consistently refused to answer, only saying, “I know what I know, none of your business!” MY business isn’t my business?! lol!
At the same time, fair-minded readers can see that your viciousness over whether I own a horse or not is really just a false “cause” that you hide behind, in order to have an excuse to be the monster that you are.
You went to the Dark Side a long time ago, & God only knows where you’ll go forever.
People like what they like. Why can’t others just accept it? Not everyone has to agree with it, but it doesn’t mean you can’t be cordial about it. If someone likes a type of horse, regardless of where it came from, and they decide to start their own registry, then so be it.
Oh and by the way, there is no “pure” American breed…or has no one else picked up on that yet??? (and if there is, then I’m just dying to learn about it) I mean, really if you go far enough back on a timeline, there’s no such thing as a purebred. All breeds have to start somewhere.
I really don’t understand what all the drama-fuss is about. People with foundation quarter horses should be able to feel free to post about their horses and I believe everyone is entitled to their own (respectful) opinion.
Bring on more horses. I will try to get some good pics of mine this weekend!
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Perhaps some want to say QH is a breed, want to say that bulldog QHs are strong riding horses, or that “QHs” have no more birth deformities than other breeds, that QHs were the cattle horses, & disagree with all of the issues brought up in the links posted. If that made some “fussy”, too bad: we’re entitled to post our opinions & whatever facts we’ve found.
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