How much "horse" can you afford? Horse Affordability Calculator

Shower thoughts! Does anyone else have these? This morning I was thinking about how I enjoyed using the “Home Affordability Calculator” when I was working on my goal of purchasing my first home a few years ago, and how helpful it was to have a tool to show me numbers. Yes, I know there are a lot of factors that go into these things, and they aren’t totally accurate, but I was just looking for estimates.

So, this morning I was thinking - how cool would it be to have a HORSE Affordability Calculator? It would be similar in that the “down payment” aka, purchase price, isn’t necessarily part of the calculations, since that’s based on how much you are capable of saving. But it would have a place where you could put in your monthly expenses (mortgage/rent, CC payments, car payments, student loans, etc), and give you an idea of how much you could afford to spend on your horse per month.

What would you include in your Horse Affordability Calculator? I’m sure some of you that are more budget-conscious or maybe have accounting backgrounds already have something like this set up. What would your calculator look like? How much of a percentage of your monthly income would you feel comfortable designating for your horse pursuits?

Maybe it’s the money nerd/accounting major in me, but I think this could be fun!

I think it would be scary!

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And too many variables…

I think it would be super helpful for people who are trying to figure out if they can enter into ownership for the first time. You could have rows for board, farrier, vet, body work, insurance, lessons, truck, trailer, insurance for both, gas, etc. People could opt out of rows that don’t apply but it would be eye-opening for someone who thinks that because they can afford a one time amount of $X that they are prepared.

As someone who just entered back into horse ownership, going through my own version of this has been less than fun!

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really easy to calculate the cost is infinity plus one

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I’m with @Janet. I know what I spend monthly on the horse line items in my budget and that they are well within my financial capability, but I don’t like to add all the numbers up or aggregate them across the months. I tend to start thinking about how those dollars might be better diverted to other uses and nope, better not to go there.

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Sounds like a fun project. One thing that would be hard to capture is how the horse ownership affects overall (future!) financial health. Sure, a person may be able to find the money to own a horse, but it’s not wise if it’s at the expense of retirement savings or adequate health insurance, or if they can’t keep a nest egg for emergency expenses.
So at the very least, I’d make sure the model includes a recommended minimum set-aside for 401k/IRA, and a some emergency savings fund.

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I also like this idea! I think HungarianHippo’s point is a good one.
As a non-owner who might be in a financial position to start owning in the next decade, I would really appreciate seeing how my current horse-related financial decisions would be likely to impact my long-term financial health.

A horse-related emergency fund would be useful to have as well - either a monthly contribution that is built up to a certain value (like many people do with their real-life emergency funds), or a monthly contribution that is ongoing

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I pretty sure I can’t afford to have a horse but here I am making it work. LOL

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buying the land for the horse pastures was our saving grace… the land is now worth considerably more than the money we spent on the horses

Several of the horses we have had were worth a lot of money if sold, but these guys were ours to take care of so they lived their lives out with us

I still can see the face of the grand parent who told me I was fool for not selling him my kids’ horse… yeah fool I was and still am

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It’s not related to affordability per se, but one thing that I think comes as a somewhat difficult wake-up call to some people who purchase horses is figuring out what to do with the horse when it no longer meets the owner’s needs - whether that’s an owner that’s lost interest in riding or an ambitious rider who wants to move up or change disciplines. In the best case scenario, you sell the horse and move on to the next - but sometimes that is much easier said than done. Maybe you are attached, maybe the horse is not an easy one to sell, maybe it’s no longer sound for riding. So while it’s not necessarily something you would build into a calculator, it may be something that you would have as a check box indicating that you understand the “terms and conditions” of taking on ownership.

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To create a Horse Affordability Calculator proceed as follows:

Step One: Prepare a budget noting your present and/or anticipated nominal living expenses, savings requirements, “emergency funds” contribution, etc…

Step Two: Establish your present, after tax regular income.

Step Three: Subtract the value calculated in Step One from the amount determined in Step Two.

Step Four: If the amount calculated in Step Three is positive Proceed to Step five. If it’s a negative then you can’t afford a horse.

Step Five: Calculate the expected expenses of horse keeping in your area. Include all expenses reasonably expected to be incurred, whether commercially boarded or kept at home.

Step Six: Take the amount determined in Step Four and subtract the amount calculated in Step Five. If it’s positive you can afford a horse; if it’s negative then you can’t.

Example: Jane Doe is an ordinary, unmarried female with an average after tax wage of $40,000/year. Her annual living expenses including savings for retirement and emergency) run $32,500. She has a surplus of $7500/year.

She lives in a major metropolitan area where horse keeping costs are high, on average running $800/month. This puts her cost at $9600/yr.

The Step Four Calculation is:

$40,000 - $32,500 = $7500

$7500 - $9600 = -$2100

Jane can’t afford a horse.

If Jane were to find new job in a lower cost location where horse keeping runs $600/mo. ($7200/yr.) but kept her present salary we find:

$40,000 - $32,500 = $7500

$7500 - $7200 = $300

Jane can afford a horse.

The problem is actually quite simple! :wink:

G.

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Yah…no.
I do not want to know.
Not ever.
Never.

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I sort of already know, in that I am that accounting professional with a fondness for spreadsheets who budgets my entire life out by the week. Very rarely do I highlight each row associated with my horse to see that total, though, because I don’t need that psychological burden hahaha.

Really though, Guilherme has it. It’s not terribly difficult to set up on your own. My budget just consists of a whole bunch of rows starting with my salary, any mileage or other one-off payments that I get for things, and then it’s a mass of every “expense” I have, from the guaranteed monthly ones like car and credit card payments, board, etc., through all of the things that I try to set aside every time I get paid (money for vacations, emergency car maintenance, emergency vet bills, etc.) which are more subject to tweaking if I know I’ve got a big expense coming up.

When it comes to my horse budget, mine is pretty simple in that half of my monthly board comes out of each paycheck (so I usually have next month’s board set aside on the 15th of the previous month), slightly more than 1/3 of my usual farrier bill comes out (so that I’m always carrying a slight reserve in case pony unexpectedly throws a shoe or something like that), whatever percentage of his Platinum and California Trace is necessary to have the money set aside before I get billed for autoship, money for the wellness plan that our vet runs (flat fee up front in January covers all regular vaccinations, dewormings, etc., except for the farm call fee that we all split) and a little extra for any non-routine visits, and then a little bit for lessons (we’re only lessoning with my trainer once a month at the moment, so it’s not a ton out of each paycheck but I like to set it aside anyway).

I don’t really budget for my random horse-related purchases (other than the big ones, like saddles), but that’s just because all I wind up ordering with any regularity is Likit refills and Farrier’s Fix and those aren’t enough money to bother adding it to the spreadsheet (in my world, anyway, no judgment for anyone who does track those things too).

I spend roughly 13% of my gross income per month on my horse, 20% of the net, but I also have the luxury of not having a huge student loan balance, so my monthly budget calculations look a bit different than those of many 20-somethings, and I also board at a friend’s place that runs literally 50% or more cheaper than many other barns in the area. If I was at one of those, I’d probably be looking at close to 1/3 of my net income going to my horse every month, if not more, and that would be why I’m not at those places (and I also just like my friend and we have an excellent working business relationship, so there’s that too).

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hate to say this but even a DOG is expensive

owning a pet over its lifetime, likely over 10 years, . Even excluding expensive and unforeseen veterinarian visits, the likely cost of owning a dog through its lifetime, as calculated by the PDSA, falls in a range of $27,074 to $42,545, depending on the breed.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/27/how-much-does-it-cost-to-own-a-dog-7-times-more-than-you-expect.html

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I’m in the “I never want to know” group.

however – there’s an app for everything else in this life – might as well be a “horse affordability” app :):slight_smile:

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I started laughing out loud, just reading the title.

If I were smart, the answer would be none.

The reality is that with horses is you can determine how much you can afford, but the expenses occur regardless or your savings or ability to meet the expenses.

So I think some of us, me definitely, do what I can to minimize risk/disaster, pray to avoid the unexpected, and handle things as best we can when they appear.

Others are smart and live within their means hahaha

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I think it would be really interesting to have data compiled on horse ownership expenses nationally - like a clickable map where you can see things like expected farrier expenses for your area, and compare that to other areas. Also it would be interesting to see horse expenses relative to cost of living. That would be a really valuable tool for this kind of calculator, especially for people who may want to factor that into their decisions about where to live.

I’d especially like to see what expenses look like relative to “tiers” of competition. Backyard pleasure horses are much less expensive day to day than high performance sporthorses, and that’s true before you even add on any competition expenses. I’ve always kept horses about as inexpensively as possible, while still being able to participate at a level that kept me growing as a rider, but honestly, in the past 5-10 years, the jump from where I am now to where I’d like to be has seemed to just widen tremendously. That’s based on perceptions, not actual data. Part of that may be that I’m looking at dressage world, and it seems like that is converging towards the hunter model, so maybe expenses are actually growing faster there than in other disciplines. Dunno.

Oh gosh and if I’m making a wishlist, I’d really like the calculator to do projections on expenses into the future. Horse world is contracting. There must be data on that. Is there going to be an “inexpensive” way to be involved 15 years from now? Important to think about.

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it really does depend on what you plan to do with the horse. If you event, well the cost is significantly more than if you trail ride. I’ve boarded and have paid through the nose to stable my horses, kept a stall in Golden Gate Park and stabled two more nearby. Also paid a trainer, had to have a truck and trailer to take to shows and then pay all the entry fees… I’ve had horses most of my adult life, and even though it’s more effort having a farm with acreage to keep them on, the cost is so much less. I can keep 10 horses on my own farm, feed them with hay we grow ourselves and the only costs i have are pretty much farrier and an occasional vet call…

My horse budget maxes out at approximately a Breyer Stablemate. Preferably an easy-keeping one.

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