How much magnesium should I give?

Might not be the best title but I was stuck for one!

I have a wonderful gelding who holds a lot of tension in his muscles. Spoke with vet, we decided to try him on a magnesium supplement in addition to his regular massages. I put him on quiessence and it’s worked wonders. He’s on a maintenance dose of 2 scoops a day now and doing very well. He’s a bit of a conformational lemon, toes out in the hind, in in the front, built down hill. He’s 8 now so I want to start him on a supplement to support his joints. Current work level is getting into shape, with the goal of baby level eventing when he’s ready.

I’ve only really used the pureform glucosamine plus with my old OTTB and I was looking into it but it has magnesium in it.

The magnesium in the quiessence is magnesium oxide- 7,000 mg per oz. and chelated magnesium 1,000 mg per oz. per day he is on 2 scoops (2 oz) of this.

The pureform glucosamine plus has 750 mg of magnesium carbonate per 1 oz. If I put him on this I would do 1 scoop (ounce) per day.

I know their different magnesiums, but will this be too much?

Not a professional but from expert advice and experience, you can tell when your horse or you are getting too much magnesium because the body removes the excess through diarrhea. Think Milk of MAGNESIa. Some even suggest dosing to the point of diarrhea and then pulling back the dose from that point. Again, not a professional.

Many posters here use MagRestore for a magnesium supplement. My understanding is that MagRestore has the variety of magnesium that is more bio-available than magnesium oxide. www.performanceequine.com

I use it for calming raging beasts and as a little helper in preventing laminitis. They each get a little scoop (enclosed). More expensive than some, but you use less.

Thank you both! Like I said I’m kind of a newbie with supplements, my old TB just went on the one and it was what my coach told me to put him on!

I’ll look into the MagRestore, it can’t hurt to try even though the quiessence seems to really help, you do feed quite a lot. I’ll probably give the vet a call for joint supplement recommendations.

Assuming that is 7gm and 1gm respectively of elemental Mg delivered in that serving, you’re at 16gm total.

The pureform glucosamine plus has 750 mg of magnesium carbonate per 1 oz. If I put him on this I would do 1 scoop (ounce) per day.
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That’s .75gm of Mg

[quote]I know their different magnesiums, but will this be too much?

Consider that most people aim for 10gm, or higher depending on the situation (ie IR horses might need more) if they are looking at Mg to help a specific issue, you’re still in the ok and reasonable range.

I don’t have a problem working up to 20gm and holding for a bit, seeing the results, and then working down to the lowest sustainable amount, so you’re good

I buy magnesium malate in bulk off of Amazon. I used to use MagRestore but with my doctor bills I had to figure out how to cut expenses. I use the same scoop as I did with the MagRestore and he gets two of them.
How much elemental magnesium is in this product?
Answer: 20% magnesium 80%malic acid one teaspoon equals 400 mg of magnesium.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BOV8LMI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

is this really cheaper (the stuff from amazon)? i’ve also been looking for something that’s a bit more cost effective than MagRestore and did try the Quiessence which did not have the same affect on my horses as the MagRestore did.

Can some one with better math skills than mine figure out if buying bulk Di-Magnesium Malate is really more cost effective than Magrestore? Pretty please?

arlosmine –

135 servings of MagRestore is 3 pounds for $54.99 or $18.33 per pound. Add the shipping cost, which I remember being high (maybe $10 or $12?), so an additional $3.33 to $4 per pound.

The Amazon DiMagnesium Malate Powder is $78.99 + $1 shipping for 5 pounds, or $16 per pound. That is the price with Amazon Prime; I don’t know if it is different without Prime.

Both kinds are around 20% magnesium, so a straight comparison says the Amazon product is cheaper.

yay math! thank you Scarlet Gilia. :slight_smile:

Yay!!! Thank you!!!

magnesium

just got done with a bag of Magrestore pellets for our horse. Didn’t do a dang thing for him. $70 out the window.

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just got done with a bag of Magrestore pellets for our horse. Didn’t do a dang thing for him. $70 out the window.[/QUOTE]

Sidebar: you might try DMG instead/as well. good luck!

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just got done with a bag of Magrestore pellets for our horse. Didn’t do a dang thing for him. $70 out the window.[/QUOTE]

I do not know why you were adding magnesium so this may not be appropriate information for your situation, but increasing magnesium will only make a change if your horse was deficient. Magnesium itself does not calm a horse or person. It is the lack of it that causes nervous behavior which is then calmed once the horse/person is getting sufficient magnesium. That is why some people swear by it and others see no change.

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Many posters here use MagRestore for a magnesium supplement. My understanding is that MagRestore has the variety of magnesium that is more bio-available than magnesium oxide. www.performanceequine.com

I use it for calming raging beasts and as a little helper in preventing laminitis. They each get a little scoop (enclosed). More expensive than some, but you use less.[/QUOTE]

I second this. My trimmer tried using the “cheap MagOx” and it did nothing. When she used MagRestore, the results were very obvious. In her case, her witchy mare calmed down and became sweet and her fat/IR herd evened out their body score (she free feeds low NSC grass hay in a dry lot, with very small hole slow feed haynets)
When her wallet was hurting, so stopped MagRestore, and tried the cheap stuff and the bad symptoms came back.

To me, this is proof/case study. So as much as it hurts my wallet…I went with MagRestore. It has already calmed down our PSSM/Tie-Up witchy sensitive mare, and I’m hoping to see it level out the body “read fat” condition of our easy keepers

i did end up ordering the magnesium that was linked above on amazon and have found, at least for my horses, that it works just as well as the MagRestore did for a much more reasonable price. shrug just thought i’d throw that out there.

Per the very nice staff at Performance Equine, you can safely give as much magnesium as your horse will tolerate. Diarrhea is the signifier of a dose that is too high. My mare is on 3 scoops of MagRestore in the morning and 2 scoops in the evening. It’s quite a bit, but it works wonders. Her chiropractor also swears by MagRestore, and says the increase in dose (she was on a lower dose) has helped her muscle recovery, as well as helped her B- attitude.

I use MagRestore with my mare. She had a lot of tension, often had little shakes particularly when stressed, would produce a TON of nervous sweat when face with almost any even mildly stressful situation (like being asked to stand at the mounting block quietly :rolleyes:) My vet recommended it when I talked to her about the issues we were having.

Honestly, like night and day for my mare. She still has a long way to come (is a retraining project), but it made a world of difference for her.

Agh - and didn’t answer the original question. I followed the loading dose/maintenance dose guidelines per the bag with MagRestore - I can’t remember the actual amount currently, but my mare’s maintenance dose is one teeny tiny scoop per day.