How would you configure a 20x26 pole barn?

Another maybe-things-will-work-out offer on a property has me dreamin’ and schemin’ again. This one has a gutted pole barn. The bones are good, needing just minor repairs. It is basically a clean slate.

The barn is 20’ x 26’ with wide doors centered on both short sides. There is a small overhang on one short side. Not my ideal size, but for the time being, I would need to work with what’s there. A new barn won’t be in the budget initially if this all works out.

I would need at least 2 stalls, a place for the farrier/vet to work, and storage space for a small amount of hay/feed/tack/bedding. The bulk of hay storage will be in a separate storage shed.

Option A: split the barn roughly in half, placing two 10’x12’ stalls in the “front” so they open to the outside on the same side as the short overhang. I would also place stall doors opening into the barn. Possibly frame out a small tack/feed room, but leave the bulk of the space open for multi-purpose storage/grooming space. The biggest con I see is that with the addition of kickboards, the stalls will probably be more like 9’-and-changex12’, which is kind of tight for my TB and WB. But a pro would be the stalls could double as free access shelter with some creative planning (I won’t let them just run in and out of regular stalls after an incident so I’m thinking swing wall/gate between the stalls that could be opened and closed easily).

Option B: place two 10’x12’ stalls along the long side. That would leave me with about an 8’ wide aisle along the entire length of the barn and another ~6’x12’ space for feed/tack. I could account for the width of the kickboards so I wouldn’t lose internal stall space. But there wouldn’t be an easy way to offer free access to the stalls, so I’d need additional shelter. I’d also have less storage space, though I could store a few bales along the aisle.

Option C: something I have yet to consider.

How would you use the space?

What about option A but make the stalls longer? Each has 10’ along the short side and uses the existing doorway to open to the outside. But on the long side you aren’t limited to 12’. They could be up to 10x18’ and you still have an 8’x20’ area (minus some space for the doorway and back stall doors) to create a cross-tie area and for storage.

Personally I cannot stand narrow aisles. 8’ would be an absolute never for me.
My stalls are 10x12, so really like 9.75x11.75, and the big horses have all been fine in them so far. But we don’t leave anyone inside for long periods unless there’s a medical reason. If you think this is too small for a large horse, I don’t see how you would be comfortable with an 8’ aisle.

I’d do option A, but at most maybe make the stalls 10’x14’ so the aisle is at least 12’ wide.

Could you add a small 10x10 shed that you plop right outside the door for tack and feed?

I would see how high are the eaves on the long sides and consider adding to one of them a 10’ or better 12’ x 26’ and make that the stalls, with an exit to outside for the horses to go to pens.
Then cut two doors into that long side and use the barn itself for everything else.

If that could work, it may not be hardly any more costly than building the stalls and other inside.

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How deep is the overhang? Is it possible to build stalls out under there, instead of inside the structure? More of a mare motel sort of deal? They could be 10 x 20, half covered. Or longer!

That would leave your entire 20 x 26 space for hay, work space and tack storage. Your stalls could open into a 10’ x 26’ aisle which should allow for two sets of cross ties. Use panels to protect your hay storage in the remaining space. Build out your tack/feed room or use panels to protect that space, too.

Easier to turn that building back into purely storage (nice space to fill with hay?) once you build bigger if your stalls aren’t in there?

What about A but add separate outside paddocks off each stall? They would only be just in the stall if the weather was bad.

Ooh, that’s exciting, I hope this property finally works out for you! Is hubby on board this time? :rofl:

I think Option A sounds the most immediately useful since the stalls can double as a run-in. The big open space also sounds more useful than an 8’ aisle (too narrow to store much, even on the walls, and still be useful as a work space) and a 6’x12’ nook.

How often/long do you anticipate stalling your horses? If you’re only stalling for feeding or during ice storms etc I wouldn’t think the stall size would be too big an issue. Or, as @mmeqcenter suggested, could you make the stalls 10’x14’?

Will the donkeys have shelter elsewhere?

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Agree that 8ft aisle is uncomfortably narrow, I’d do the two stalls on the endwall. My QHxPerch long-backed mare is totally fine in her 9x12 stall-- lays down to sleep, moves easily around it. Consider a drop-down or yoke style stall door so horses can stick their heads out. Mine are out 24/7 most days, so I might have a different answer if they were stalled every night.

I’d also look into cutting an opening between posts in the sidewall to add an enclosed lean-to, to increase the amount of tool / tack / hay storage. Could be a future project as budget permits. Stuff like wheelbarrows, tools,etc takes up a lot of space (but it’s really nice to keep that stuff close at hand, not stored outside in the weather.

Another thought is that you could make stalls out of roundpen panels and try both configurations to see what works better.

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I agree with Option A. I put 2 11’6”x11’6” stalls with sliding yoke fronts in a free span 24’x24’ building and added an overhang. That left me 11’6”ish but 23’6”ish for storage. Using the sliding fronts really helped max the space. I haven’t framed out a tack room or feed room. I can comfortably store 25 bales of hay, bedding for a month or so, wheelbarrow and basic implements as well as have a grain bin and wall cabinet for meds, supplements, etc. in this front area. I matted it all and the net space is big enough to be a comfortable indoor place for the vet and farrier to work. It took a lot of planning but I’m happy with it. Your net space is 56 sq ft less. From my experience I’d go with with smaller stalls unless you don’t need the handy indoor storage as 8’ is going to feel really tight.

Before reading your options, I was thinking two 10x13’ stalls on one end, then an open 13 x 20 space at the other end which could be configured as you wish, but preferably kept mostly open to allow for changes as needed. So, more like option A.

Option B would give you the world’s most cluttered aisle.

My barn is like a larger version of this at 34 x 48’. I have four stalls on a 10’ aisle just at one end of the barn, using 34 x 24’ of space. I have a gate in the middle of the building, so that the horses can have free access to the stall area, but can’t ransack my hay storage. In the other end, I have a feed/tack room on part of one side, but the aisle and the entire other side is open. Some of it has hay. Some of it will have my tractor in it tonight in anticipation of the snow (it’s usually outside). The 8 x 12 slot between the tack room and the stalls is storage for shavings bags, wheelbarrow, pitchforks, fans, grooming tools, etc. I built the tack room at 12 x 16 to take advantage of the spacing of the building posts since I built it by myself. I don’t keep most of my tack in there after issues with stink bugs and raccoons. If I had to do it again, I’d either make it more fully closed off, or make it smaller.

Thanks everyone. It sounds like option A makes the most sense, which is already how I was leaning. My horses only use their stalls at meal times; otherwise they are just for emergencies.

I could certainly make the stalls a touch longer than 12’… I just didn’t know if extra length would help if they are narrow.

My current barn has an 8’ aisle (I think… maybe I need to re-measure). It’s narrow but useable. But seeing as how I need shelter, it makes less sense.

The existing overhang is only 4’ or 5’- not enough for any substantial shelter on its own. But… it will give the donkey somewhere to go when the horses are locked up.

I had considered building out the barn to give more space, it would just depend on cost. If this works out, there are going to be some other big expenses to get the property horse ready… namely fencing. So I’d be sticking to strictly utilitarian barn updates for now.

Now we just wait and see what comes of this… I won’t know anything for a couple more days.

I actually thought of you today touring my new neighbors’ remodeled barn! They renovated the old 10x10 stalls to 10x14s and it does seem like a huge improvement to me.

Good luck with the offer!!!

Well he WAS… he was even the one who was like “let’s get our offer ready!”

Now we are up against a deadline and he has cold feet and is sabotaging. :triumph:

Our realtor deserves a medal… or a stiff drink…

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I would suggest not to go forward with something that important until everyone is completely on board and firmly committed.

Not fair to have something like a difference now hanging on this for years to come every time something is not quite up to expectations if this go thru and you buy the place.
That is a stress no one needs in their lives.
He really needs to pony-up, get it done or get off the pot.
Having second thoughts is normal.
Sabotaging? Not fair to everyone involved.

Oh, we aren’t @Bluey. I completely agree. I just got to call the realtor to say cancel the offer.

At this point I’m ready to stop the house search and begin the divorce lawyer search. Joking… sort of…

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Good for you to be the calm, decisive one.
Someone needs to be.

He may just need a little more time to decide what he really wants.
Bet that some will come up both of you will like, but sure is frustrating until you do.

If it’s any consolation, I was ready to dump Mr. Sadie in a ditch when he backed out of making an offer on a place I thought I really wanted.

Two weeks later we were under contract on a much better place.

He likes to remind me about it. Often.

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I hope that’s what happens. Though I am beyond burned out on real estate.

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It’s miserable. The worst. Very stressful too. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you.

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