Well, I’d say more than a few times. Especially for someone who “never posts here”…
(For those who can’t see the icons, OP has posted 128 times in this thread, with second most posts being 32).
Well, I’d say more than a few times. Especially for someone who “never posts here”…
(For those who can’t see the icons, OP has posted 128 times in this thread, with second most posts being 32).
128 posts and none of them ever revealed whether or not the “unqualified” young woman got the horse blanketed on the occasion in question.
Oh well. Maybe when she says she doesn’t “post here anymore” she means she doesn’t post anything relevant to the discussion that she started. She seems to be able to come back and post insults though…and then blame everyone else for the negative turn of the thread.
If you click on her icon and scroll down, it will bring up her posts, you can easily go through and see how many questions not answered and how many are insults.
I think this very much depends on environment. When I took over this barn, I saw a lot of inexperienced people with zero guidance. The “rules” just didn’t exist. They did have lots of stories of injury to horse and human that were a little hair-raising.
I think there’s then a middle place where people learn enough to know that there are rules and they follow them. Sometimes quite rigidly. People in this phase tend to say “this is how it is” training comments as well. “All horses do x” or “All horses need y” seems to be the nature of the middle area of experience. I’ve heard it a lot through the years.
The most experienced folks - they get complacent, then perhaps they suffer some injuries and they follow rules again…and that pattern repeats. They also tend to see the gray areas in horse care and training - to realize that there are individuals and that not all horses respond to the same things.
It sort of follows the Dunning-Kruger model, except that I would say that “peak” of confident ignorance is quite large in equine-land, and some people never get out of it because they just aren’t around them enough - https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:4800/format:webp/1*VX_yFVny-8iHO22IwUgpDw.png
Yes we get to follow rules again, a sailor doesn’t, hence the saying is for them.
How rude. It appears that others here just can’t help themselves either-how odd it is that you chose to insult me when I wasn’t responding to you. What did you think you were accomplishing with such a rude post to me?
@fivestrideline, ummm, I started the thread. Got a lot of feedback that I responded to initially. Obviously I’m the top poster here. What exactly is your point? Your post doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Mean Girls in the house.
Can you really not see, or comprehend, that people respond to you in the way they do because of the way you respond to them?
Yeah. You.
I didn’t address Ghazzu. And can’t you actually see, or comprehend, that people respond poorly to me because their responses aren’t reflective of the actual situation? People have made so many assumptions and they get mad when I respond that their responses don’t apply to the actual situation. People posting later on this thread just don’t want to hear that.
Instead we get the Mean Girls.
I guess I’m one of ‘the others’ (mean girls) who’s also commented on your proclivity for flounces and and your strange flexes in response to a topic you began. In which, though asked multiple times, you’ve refused to answer a very simple question; deflecting instead to compulsive need to point fingers at those you think are rude. I personally don’t think Ghazzu was rude at all.
You’re the top poster, clearly. Mainly because you’ve repeatedly left the thread but more likely that your need for some kind of … um…rude response overrides your ability to sit back and reflect on the how’s, why’s and wherefores of your own attitude.
Did the horse ever get it’s rug put on in the situation you opened with?
And what question have I repeatedly not answered?
I’m the top poster because I responded to people who were constructive early on. I’ve ignored the thread when people kept changing the narrative later on. Meaning, they were assuming things that were not a part of the situation, often based on what they could glean from my previous posts. They didn’t ask me questions, they posted their own false narrative and pretended to know what was “actually” going on. Mean Girls. It gets rather tiring dealing with people’s assumptions that have such little bearing on the actual situation and repeating myself again and again.
As I have mentioned originally, the rug got put on. As I already mentioned, the horse spooked big but reacted largely in place being cognizant of where her body was in his space. She retreated at first but then fastened the rug. It could have gone another way for all of the reasons I’ve mentioned.
Why you think I dodged that question is beyond me because I’ve laid it out several times. Your saying I have to simply reflect on my own attitude is so characteristic of the unhelpful “advice” and narratives formed on this thread while still supporting a false narrative. Would you characterize this as a rude response to you?
I’ve ignored the thread when people kept changing the narrative later on.
No you haven’t. You’ve replied compulsively.
the rug got put on
I’m going to have to eat my metaphorical hat when I find where you laid out that answer several times.
No, I replied when people kept changing the narrative. It’s all laid out in this thread. But you say I replied “compulsively” rather than to peoples’ assumptions. Do you consider this a “compulsive” reply? Did I reply “compulsively” tonight? You probably will say “yes”. Your insults to me are noted.
You will eat your words because you obviously haven’t paid attention to the thread but will argue that you have. This is the problem.
As someone who has read every post in this, this is actually the first time she gave a definite “the blanket was put on”, unless she said this in an early comment that has since been deleted/changed to “Thanks”.
@J-Lu most of your comments are from after you started arguing with everyone, not before. That was after a total of… 8-9 comments. Including the original post, there are ~7 posts that just say “thanks” and one post talking about the Natural Horsemanship trainer at the barn. After that you started arguing about “ASSumptions” and then there are two more “thanks”. Nearly every post after that is… well, everyone arguing in circles tbh.
I get to keep my hat?
@J-Lu
FWIW, I don’t think there was any ‘false narrative’ applied to this thread. I see people offering opinions and answers, and some that asked questions. When you didn’t like the direction of questioning, you called it out as ASSumptions and in that manner, invited responses of a similar tone.
I used the word compulsive only in the sense that you don’t seem to be able to complete the flounce without the volte-face. No need to note my comments as insults; they’re just comments.
It’s your thread, however, and I’ll leave you to it.
I didn’t address Ghazzu.
Yes you did.
As I already mentioned, the horse spooked big but reacted largely in place being cognizant of where her body was in his space. She retreated at first but then fastened the rug. It could have gone another way for all of the reasons I’ve mentioned.
How do you know how the horse reacted exactly??? You weren’t there. If anyone is concocting “narratives”, it’s you. You weren’t there.
Doubtful the daughter told you this whole story in such detail and specific terms, you know since she’s apparently so unqualified and untrained and non-horsey.
As someone who has read every post in this, this is actually the first time she gave a definite “the blanket was put on”, unless she said this in an early comment that has since been deleted/changed to “Thanks”.
Been here since the beginning as well and I agree.
This thread keeps dying and OP keeps reviving it to tell people just how much they “ignore” and “don’t post here”. I’ve not seen any rudeness given that wasn’t instigated by OP, and more than that it’s been extremely tame. It’s not rude to discuss on a discussion board, even if things don’t pan out exactly how OP thinks they should
First of all it is an open forum that you asked a question in and expected responses. If you only wanted certain people to answer and not all COTH members then maybe you should have used the PM feature instead.
Additionally I don’t think Ghazzu is a Mean Girl. strong text Truthfully I don’t think the majority of people who answered have been mean girl. They are responding to your tone in kind.
I also have read every response. It was only today that I was clear that she was able to get the blanket changed. It saw where it was specifically asked multiple times and yet at no point did you come back with a quote from an earlier post or just respond with a simple: Yes or Yes, after a couple of minutes she was able to get it on him.
You are coming across as very angry on this thread and a few others recently. On this thread I felt people were trying to ask for clarifications on the exact set-up and exactly what happened. When you lashed out instead of clearly answering a few simple questions then things got testy.
Your assertion that your horse is the easiest horse ever does not 100% carry weight with me. We don’t know you or anything about you. However we have all met the people that say "Dobbin is the bestest sweetest horse ever.’ Chomp. “Oh, he just likes to give love nips.” And you wake up the next morning with a massive bruise and swollen arm from bestest sweet Dobbin.
Walking on a trail last weekend with my lab. Another lab coming the other way- Owner says she is friendly. Let the dogs great each other. His lab snarls and lunges at mine. Not what I consider friendly.
People (g) want to see their horse/dog/cat as kinder, nicer, better than they frequently are. Therefore I think many of us take the HO or PO account of how easy to handle and how well behaved an animal is with a grain of salt. We have all been burned too many times by an owner oblivious to their pets misbehaviors. Ask any vet tech about that.
The way a few of the fields are set up at the barn I work at the horses get snacks on the front fence to lure them from the far back of a really large pasture until we can halter them and bring them in. The top of that fence has a really juiced electric fence. I have not seen one get shocked while they were eating.
A few months ago I was bringing 2 horses through the gate and one of the horses touched the wire with her nose. She pulled back and ran away back into the field. A week later my boss did the same thing with a different horse in the same field. We both have over 40 years of horse experience each. Manure happens even to experienced people.
I didn’t address Ghazzu.
You make a lot of statements in this thread that really raise the question if you’re even aware of the things you post.
You responded directly to Ghazzu. Do you see this?
You responded to Ghazzu’s post. You asked her a question. Yes, you addressed her.
You also come here late at night and rabidly and repeatedly insult people who are trying to help you, while saying you’ve left and you don’t post here anymore. Do you know that’s happening?
And it’s strange that you think this is true.
As I have mentioned originally, the rug got put on.
Where do you think you clearly stated that?
There seems to be a serious disconnect with reality here.
This was what J-Lu wrote in the first post (bolding mine):
"She tried blanketing my horse when feeding recently, he moved forward, his nose touched the hotwire and he was shocked. He spooked significantly"
Tried means something was attempted not accomplished.
You make a lot of statements in this thread that really raise the question if you’re even aware of the things you post.
She also did this in a completely unrelated thread that wasn’t hers: came in and went off very rudely to a long and well thought out post that was very appropriate for that OP and then when questioned about being in the wrong thread also flew off the handle attacking people.
the horse spooked big but reacted largely in place being cognizant of where her body was in his space
How do you know this if you weren’t there? And this horse isn’t that easy to blanket if he’s that touchy. None of the other horses this person blanketed had a hissy.
I’m just more put out that someone who was doing a favor on Christmas weekend is getting dumped on. Okay, maybe she isn’t a horse person, but she was doing the best she could and honestly, that’s the case with most barn staff when it comes to blanketing/bringing in horses/stall mucking.