Hunter stallion help! Need a big step

which stallions are proponent for throwing a big balanced canter? Also, must keep the mares easy quiet temperament. I’m seeing a lot of Cassini lines in the 4’ rings, thoughts?

I have a really nice mare that I absolutely love. She is the easiest horse I have ever ridden, Fantastic conformation , hack winner, super form over fences but not a very big step so limited to the 3’. Thanks friends???

When you are searching for a hunter stallion make sure you do your “homework.” Don’t limit yourself to stallions advertised as Hunter stallions, but rather use the USEF database to search the pedigree of hunters with the type you are drawn towards with particular attention to what you want to improve on your mare. Using frozen semen will open up your choices immensely, but make sure you have a repro specialist lined up to breed your mare. Watch tons of videos of stallions and offspring (just imagine without jumper tack). It is impossible to give specific advice without knowing your mare or her pedigree, but some of the stallions in the pedigrees of the winners at Cap Challenge were Lordanos, Catoki, Casiro and Verdi. Also, the orders of the pre green incentive have the breeding listed- another way you can research some of the younger Hunter stallions. Have fun and good luck!

I bred my mare to Cunningham specifically to improve the canter and temperament. Her foal is now 2 1/2, and he has an amazing, huge, balanced canter. He also has the best brain and is incredibly easy to work with. Longed him wearing a saddle for the first time the other day, and he didn’t blink an eye!

Cunningham is by Cassini I and was super successful in the 4’ hunters. He is available fresh semen and his owner was very easy to work with.

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I bred my mare to Cunningham specifically to improve the canter and temperament. Her foal is now 2 1/2, and he has an amazing, huge, balanced canter. He also has the best brain and is incredibly easy to work with. Longed him wearing a saddle for the first time the other day, and he didn’t blink an eye!

Cunningham is by Cassini I and was super successful in the 4’ hunters. He is available fresh semen and his owner was very easy to work with.[/QUOTE]

I have a 3.5 yr old by Cunningham, he’s a big boy 17 hands but his dam was big also. He has a fantastic canter, he’s at my trainer right now to be very lightly started and has been super easy. The common theme that I hear when I go to see him at her barn is “he is a sweetheart” “he is just the sweetest” :slight_smile: I bought him at 2 for his laid back amateur brain.

I met Cunningham in person and his owner over the summer when I was in CA. What a sweet gentle soul he is, not to mention stunning. He made me love my boy even more!

I have a 1.5 yo Cunningham filly…long legs and huge step. She floats.

While I don’t YET have a Cunningham baby, we are in the process of breeding for one. I do know he is a lovely stallion. I have video of the owner showing him to my BF and his co-worker. At one point she hands him to the co-worker, so she can go get more carrots, the coworker had never held a horse before in his life. Cunningham just stood there patiently. My BF said that all the other offspring
were the same way polite and well mannered. I can’t wait for my future baby Cunningham!

Legaczy

Your thoughts on greys

How tall are your Cunningham babies and how tall were their dams?

I know this sounds so petty but Im worried about getting a grey and having the time to clean him before trailering for a lesson or show. I work full time have kids and squeeze in the shows. Thoughts? My mare is homozygous black/bay, is there a good chance of a grey foal?

Thanks my forum-friends???

dressage/eventer here… I keep seeing “big step” used here; this seems to be a Hunter-Jumper colloquialism. Link to horses with these “big steps”? Is Cunningham an example?

Homozygous black just means your mare won’t produce a chestnut. Grey is a modifier, not an actual color; so your mare would produce a bay or black but it could be grey… Whether or not she produces a grey depends on the stallion.

It refers to the length of canter stride, since in the jumping disciplines, distances between fences makes a difference. In Jumpers, it’s less of an issue, as how many strides doesn’t matter. But in Hunters, sadly it’s only correct to have the “right” number of strides between fences, with few exceptions. At the higher levels you want something that’s got a naturally longer stride, minimally 12’.

Cunningham is indeed one.

I believe Cunningham throws all bay or grey babies, depending on the mare side. Not a color genetics expert, but there are other COTH folks that certainly are! My filly’s dam was also heterozygous grey, like Cunningham. We are pretty sure that my filly is homozygous grey as she is already very light and I understand that is an indication. But her mane and tail are dark, so I think she’s going to look really cool as she greys out! But, yes, I see a lot of whitening shampoo and sheets in my future. :eek:

I know people knock the hunters when it comes to striding, but it really is about creating the beautiful picture…flowing down the lines without looking quick is really the point. It’s much harder for a short-strided horse to look as nice whether they run to get the “right” number or do the add.

If your mare is not gray, and the sire is gray, you have a 50/50 chance of a gray (if stallion is hetrozygous. If he’s homozygous you’ll have 100% gray. Cunningham has had non-gray foals, so he’s definitely hetro).

The Balou du Rouet horses have big steps and big jumps and there are several of them standing in the US. (all are bay)

Cunningham is lovely! I seriously considered him for my Riverman mare, but since she’s also gray, I had a 75% chance of ending up with one. I went with a bay stud to reduce my gray chances to 50%, but still ended up with a gray colt :slight_smile:

Gray horses are more work, but they look stunning when all cleaned up. And remember the young gray horses are steel or dappled, and therefore pretty easy to keep clean on a day-to-day basis. It’s only when they get really light that it becomes a lot of work.