Hypothetical question about foal value - Donnerhall/Totilas/Sandro Hit bred foal

[Inese]

Hi. First time posting in this forum, so forgive my ignorance on sport horse breeding topics.

I own an Oldenburg (GOV) mare by Soprano (Sandro Hit). I did some research on line, and Sandro Hit seems to cross well with Donnerhall for dressage prospects.

If I bred her to Taylormade Top Gear (Totillas/Donnerhall) would the resulting foal have value to dressage buyers?

Any guesstimates on $$ for the foal once once he/she is weaned?

This is all hypothetical, as the mare is a maiden, and the prospective sire is available via frozen semen -http://www.superiorequinesires.com/stallion.php?Tailormade-Top-Gear-819

Is there too much infusion of Sandro Hit on top and bottom of hypothetical pedigree? Any issues with inbreeding?

Any insights welcome!

[ladyj79]

Because everyone and their brother has sandro hit/donnerhall horses bred for dressage, and there are various totilas sons now available…And also totilas himself, this is a foal who would have desirable but not hard to get bloodlines by any means, and its value will entirely depend on what hits the ground. Totilas/gribaldi and sons are noted as not being great behind (by kwpn) so there are people who aren’t overly interested in that line…same as any other line or stallion. I’d say do the breeding if you’d like, I’m sure it will be a nice horse, but maybe not if your goal is to pay off the mortgage with the profits

[Anne]

You would not be creating a Donnerhall/Totilas/Sandro Hit foal.

You would be creating a Taylormade Top Gear/Soprano/??? foal.

When people use three stallions’ names like that, they mean sire, dam’s sire, and second dam’s sire. The accuracy of that information is important, and changes the value!

[Cartier]

You might ask Alain what the thinks of your mare and the cross with that stallion. He’d have the most experience with Soprano offspring, and very likely the most useful opinion of how to breed your mare.

I think the days of a foal having value simply because of names in a pedigree are dead and gone… years ago. The market is savvy enough to value a good horse. So first get an accurate assessment of the strengths and weaknesses of your mare, and then find the best stallion for her, regardless of the name.

[Inese]

[QUOTE=Anne;8382082]

When people use three stallions’ names like that, they mean sire, dam’s sire, and second dam’s sire. The accuracy of that information is important, and changes the value![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cartier;8382235]
I think the days of a foal having value simply because of names in a pedigree are dead and gone… years ago. The market is savvy enough to value a good horse. So first get an accurate assessment of the strengths and weaknesses of your mare, and then find the best stallion for her, regardless of the name.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the insights - this was the kind of information I was hoping to get from COTH!

[Nadia1990]

from the Soprano horses i have seen and the Sandro Hit’s in general they tend to be very slow behind so I would be looking at something better behind. The Sandro Hits also tend to be a bit more difficult (obviously I have no idea about your mare). As far as using the Donnerhall line I think De Niro really is his best son and produces Grand Prix horses with talent for the collected movements as well as great minds.