Ideas for hunter paces?

I was asked to map out the course for a hunter pace in May. This is a new one for me; I’ve ridden in a ton of hunter paces, but never had to map one out.

What have you liked or disliked about the paces in which you have participated? Jumpers and hilltoppers both are welcomed to make comments.

I’ve ridden in paces where you have to pick up a certain amount of tokens along the route, in order to prove you did the entire thing. Is that annoying or fun? What markers are easiest to see? Unfortunately I will have to be up extremely early that morning to mark the course; the joggers and hikers in the park delight in removing them for some strange reason.

Thanks for the advice/help!

I like the idea of things to pick up along the way to prove you did it.

One hunter pace that I rode in had only one “optimum time” and it was set by a Steeplechase rider.

Well the entire course took us three hours. It took him about 49 minutes.

That wasn’t really cool. But what was worse was that some folks that knew who set the course, also “cut off” parts of the course, and thereby got closer to the optimum time.

But, I was just going for fun, so I still had a great time.

The food was INSANELY GOOD.

You mean people go to compete ??

It’s much more fun if you just go and mess around.

I don’t know, I think its fun to try and get the pace “right” sometimes.

Othertimes, I like to lag.

Depends on the day.

Here in VA it is actually a circuit, although not every one competes in all the paces. I ride in the optimum time over fences category. I do think it is fun to try to hit the pace.

One of the most fun parts of the circuit is going to the VPPA awards dinner at the end of the season. There we get to mingle with the real steeplechasers.

As far as course are conderned I like the ones that are about 3 to 3.5 miles with terrain that varies from flat to hilly. I also like the ones that just use the hunt territory as is and do not build jumps for the pace. With that said, I couple of the courses incorporate in some of the timber fences from the steeplechase races. We’ve done jumps from 2’ up to 3’ 7" on some of these courses.

Piedmont has one of the most fun courses with coops, stone walls, drops, etc. Its is a lot of fun.

I attended a hunter pace once where you had to pick up items along the way. The items were in Christmas stockings which were hung on trees. The stocking were not “hung with care” and kept falling off, which meant you had to get off your horse, etc. Then you had to keep up with all the stuff until you finished. I found the whole ordeal rather bothersome, especially trying to maintain a certain pace.

I’ve attended hunter paces where the course were not marked well. They used a tiny piece of survey tape that you could hardly see until you were right on top of it. Turns were not marked with the usual three ribbons. They had also attempted to pull down some old markers but left enough hanging that we thought we were on course but were not.

Our hunt always gets compliments on how well the course is marked. Using the right color of survey tape for the time of year is helpful. Orange and pink show up well in the spring. Blue shows up well in the fall. We usually hang 18"-24" pieces of tape. Be sure to hang them close enough that riders don’t go too long without seeing a marker and begin to wonder if they’ve missed one. We also use directional arrows where there’s nothing to tie survey tape to. We always have a separate,slow/shorter course called Strollers (4-6 miles) for riders/horses not comfortable in the 10-12 mile course. The long course has three divisions: Full Cry-10 mph-mandatory jumps; First flight-8 mph-jumps optional; Hilltoppers-6mph-jumps optional. Riders are not told how long the course is and try to ride it at the optimum time for the division they’ve entered.

I can’t imagine marking the entire course the morning of the event. Are you marking it on foot or horse? We use 4 wheelers to mark the course. We spend the better part or a day doing it. Maybe you should mark it the day before then ride it early the next morning to fix/repair any markers that have been pulled down. Best of luck and let us know how it goes.

I have lots of hunter pace stories but the best was when we two “massholes” went to Vt. We dressed in green tshirts and had white/black blankets and fleece on our horses . We thought we were SO clever until the starting person said " how fun, you made you horses look like pintos". That was our first clue. Imagine her surprise when we told her we were going with the holstein theme. The 2nd was as we started off at a trot they yelled “don’t rush now”. Our response was "we are in the hunter division ". Well we had a wonderful ride but arrived l hour ahead of the set time. We laughed and warned all of them to speed up if crossing the border south . It was a wonderful day and I suspect a 10 mile trot (or more).

Another was when my mare refused a jump . I went flying and in my usual fashion went forward in a roll off of her. My swinging stirrup hit my face and I had a huge shiner forming as we entered the check. My friend and I chatted and as we took off after the check we headed towards the first jump in plain sight of all. We had a horse dart left as we headed for the jumps. My friends horse-a retired steeplechase horse stopped dead to watch her and my friend ended up hanging upsidedown on the jump. It was if she had sat on the top rail and then fell backwards. So there she was hanging upside down, there I was with my big black eye . Once I knew she was ok, I started laughing like crazy and of course my friend was mortified.

Paces are such a good time. I love doing them . But you need to be with the right mix of people and feel comfortable with the people with whom you ride. I like 5-7 mile courses. I love a variety of jumps and I personally like “surprises”. Just like with hunting , you have got to be prepared to fly around a corner and pop a jump.

I do want to mention , after telling war stories, is to please mark with plates or wooden signs. Some groups up our way use ribbons. When maneuvering in New England you must use and frankly enjoy windy wooded trails. Ribbons hanging from trees aren’t always seen as well as plates with arrows or some folks have premade signs.

Have a variety of jumps. IF your ultimate goal is to bring funds in for your hunt or club, you really want to have a course that offers a variety of choices for jumps. I also think being able to hold it on lands not commonly open to the public draws a crowd.

The pace that I helped with was marked with plates. Interestingly, it also incliuded a section in tthe Patuxent River. More than a few riders crossed the finishline dripping water from there mounts having a roll in the surf.

I really don’t like it when the optimum time is merely the average time of all participants. I’d much rather shoot for a brisk (but not blistering) time on a hunting-fit horse.

Maybe have hunter time and casual trail time or something.

I agree, I think it makes it more of an actual event to have something to aim for. The average time is just pure chance, as you have absolutely no idea what anyone else is doing and if someone has a problem and takes longer, then it screws up the average for everyone else.

The hunter pace I attend most often (Glenmore Hunt, since its Paces are just a couple of miles away, generally), also has separate divisions, including a trail division, that is completely separate in regards to time, than the other divisions. I really like that and think it makes it fair for all.

Speaking of optimum time, the last hunter pace I rode in was last fall. My partner and I decided to ride it at a decent pace, not too slow, not too fast. We pretty much trotted the entire course. And we came in WAY under the optimum time, even after getting lost. Odd. Must have been paced pretty slow.