:lol::lol::lol:
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It’s not bigoted - that’s a stretch, and rude to insinuate that. Japan doesn’t have the land that we have to retire horses - they do slip through and get slaughtered there because it’s practical. Just because a previous owner has a buy-back option doesn’t mean he will.
What is lacking in horse racing is loyalty to fans. Can you imagine for one minute if our pro football/basketball/baseball players were traded to other countries?
If the industry wants fans to fawn over these athletes, buy tickets, place bets, buy merchandise, then keep them here. I don’t care what country he’s going to. It’s unfair to the fans that his dust has hardly settled from his last race and he’s hopping a plane to live with the highest bidder - who happens to be in a foreign country. Hey Thanks… You can argue that he’ll be well cared for but he won’t be HERE, where we love him.
Personally, as a fan who visits tracks and especially KY to see the horses…I HATE it when they leave. Right or wrong, it’s just the way I feel.[/QUOTE]
Oh and that never happens here??? Get a grip.
How naive can you be? You dont think for one minute that if other countries were offering more than the already insane money that is paid for sports stars that they wouldnt be on the first plane over there?
Ive got a news flash for you. Horse racing is alive and well in Japan, and their top horses over there are rock stars. Far more than here.
Seriously? Do we really need another stallion that couldn’t make it through his 3 YO year? Of course it’s about the money. Why wouldn’t it be?
OTOH, I don’t agree about how great Sunday Silence was treated. From reading about the situation at the time, it sounded like he was allowed to suffer tremendously before he was finally euthanized. I thought they kept him going WAY too long. But, that is just my opinion of course, I wasn’t there.
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OTOH, I don’t agree about how great Sunday Silence was treated. From reading about the situation at the time, it sounded like he was allowed to suffer tremendously before he was finally euthanized. I thought they kept him going WAY too long. But, that is just my opinion of course, I wasn’t there.[/QUOTE]
I could say the same thing about Barbaro.
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Wow, this is wonderful news!![/QUOTE]
I’ll Have Another…helping?
Ditto! :lol::lol::lol:
Barbaro was never allowed to reach the stage that SS did. Nowhere near it. It sounded really horrifying.
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Oh and that never happens here??? Get a grip.
How naive can you be? You dont think for one minute that if other countries were offering more than the already insane money that is paid for sports stars that they wouldnt be on the first plane over there?
Ive got a news flash for you. Horse racing is alive and well in Japan, and their top horses over there are rock stars. Far more than here.[/QUOTE]
I’m not sure why you have to be so nasty to share your opinion…
But I’m the general public - my feelings probably aren’t unique. I’m the fan, not the breeder, the trainer, or the partial owner. Your rude commentary proves that the public and fans don’t matter one lick because we are “naive”.
I know what happens to American TB’s. I’ve had a barn full of cast off’s. Ironically your post accuses me of being the exact opposite of what I was accused of in another post on this board a few weeks ago - where I was called naive for believing bad things happen to our ex racehorses. sigh
Sounds like Three Chimney’s proving the class act they are is offering to step up and keep and eye on him just like they do Derby Winner Silver Charm.
Quoted from their FB page this am.
"While Three Chimneys doesn’t have any ownership interest in I’ll Have Another, he is by one of our stallions, Flower Alley, and we’ve been some of his biggest fans from Day 1.
Three Chimneys has offices in Japan and we’ve been fortunate to have an extensive amount of experience with Japanese-American bloodstock and business transactions. That’s afforded us a unique and educated perspective on the Japanese Thoroughbred breeding industry. Roughly every 1-1.5 years, a representative of Three Chimneys goes to Japan to visit our clients, the farms, and to visit KY Derby winner Silver Charm. We also keep up with Charm’s farm via email and post periodic photos and updates on him for fans, thanks in large part to Japan-based photographer Kate Hunter.
Three Chimneys talked with the Reddams and O’Neills yesterday and offered to do the same for Flower Alley’s son, I’LL HAVE ANOTHER."
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Seriously? Do we really need another stallion that couldn’t make it through his 3 YO year? Of course it’s about the money. Why wouldn’t it be?
OTOH, I don’t agree about how great Sunday Silence was treated. From reading about the situation at the time, it sounded like he was allowed to suffer tremendously before he was finally euthanized. I thought they kept him going WAY too long. But, that is just my opinion of course, I wasn’t there.[/QUOTE]
Sunday Silence was not euthanized he died on his own from heart failure. From time of surgery for the leg infection till death was 14wks. I don’t feel his interests were attempting to do anything less then Barbaro’s owner they were trying to keep him pain free and save his life. Sorry if that bothers you.
Or Nureyev.
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I hope he performs and dies of natural causes before he stops performing. I hope this is the last horse Reddam owns too - his true colors are showing. If it’s about money, just say so, but don’t lie and say it’s about the IHA’s well-being just to win fans’ sentimentality…obviously he played that hand well.[/QUOTE]
Oh for God’s sake, it’s not like they’re going to take him off the plane and slap him on the BBQ.
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Barbaro was never allowed to reach the stage that SS did. Nowhere near it. It sounded really horrifying.[/QUOTE]
Never underestimate the power of insurance companies, especially when they are insuring a horse for multi multi millions.
That was my thought.
We’ve stopped breeding for soundness, and fixated on early speed, to the long term detriment of the TB, IMHO.
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Let’s remember that probably no US breeding farm would have gone to the great lengths that the Japanese went to with War Emblem with his “peculiar tastes” in mares and the whole breeding biz. BTW, is War Emblem breeding anything over there at all?[/QUOTE]
This is the most recent article I could find about War Emblem…from when he only bred 5 mares in 2010:
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/editorial/article.cgi?id=19040
If anyone has more updated info, please share.
Very interesting article. If he had been in the U.S. I’ll bet he would have been on a one-way trip to Canada or Mexico by this time or been sold/given to a breeder in Tibet or somewhere equally obscure.
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Oh for God’s sake, it’s not like they’re going to take him off the plane and slap him on the BBQ.[/QUOTE]
Who implied that?
many people on the internet, fb etc have implied that and more.
I want him here because I’m a selfish fan and want to lay my eyes on him.
And Penny Tweedy and other owners have come out in recent years and agreed with you, so you are in good company. (Yes I know Secretariat was put down when he had laminitis at 17 yoa.) And Allen Paulson didn’t put his stud down when the stud was shooting blanks.
I read recently that the TB “industry” has gone from breeding 3 or 4 thousand a year to over 38,000 a year. More fodder for slaughter, more breakdowns on the track, but then everyone gets to own a share of a racehorse. I said when Barbaro shattered that leg in so many places that that breeding combo was wrong…so there were more full siblings bred.
I want the horses like Kelso (I know yes he ran for longer because he was a gelding) and Slew and Bid and Affirmed, who lived till their mid-20s.
What difference does it make if the Japanese eat him like they did Ferdinand vs. getting sent to slaughter if a horse fails in the breeding shed down here? The TB “industry” needs to breed sound horses and train them more carefully.
(There’s a reason that horses and cattle drink a lot of beer over in Japan.)
Wrong thread!
