I'm tempted to learn how to groom my dog myself... UPDATE post 28

This is just a pointless vent, but I feel that people who provie a service should act in a professional manner and I am amazed at how rude some people can be. I usually take Carl up to Petsmart for grooming, as if you get the right person they tend to do a decent job. Unfortunately the girl I usually use is no longer there and I was assigned someone else who I’ve never seen there before.

I go to drop him off and immediately notice she has an attitude. I’m standing there saying to myself “Please don’t let her be who our appointment is with” and sure enough, she walks over.

She then had an attitude while I was explaining what we wanted, saying it simply can’t be done with his coat. Um… ok lady, look in the computer. It’s exactly what we had done last time. Upon looking it up she still says that he needs some other service which will cost more (next level up from using the ferminator apparently…?). I explain that he has less undercoat now than he did last time he was in (We have taken him to a “do it yourself” grooming place inbetween professional grooming appts and I give him a full bath and spend a couple hours brushing/blowing the undercoat out) and they were able to do it but ask how much more it will cost. She throws her hands in the air and says that she knows what the computer says but she does not think that will be enough so I either leave or trust that she knows what she is doing. I again ask how much it will cost, stating that I paid $116 last time and I needed to know how much more I was going to have to pay. She sighs loudly, stands there for a minute going through her computer, and responds that it will be $128. (Sorry it seems to be an inconvenience to look up pricing… but I’m not going to leave my dog for a service with no idea what it will cost. I didn’t want to come back and find out I was being charged something much higher). She then stated that if I brought him in every month it would be cheaper since it would only be $94 and I respond that it really is not cheaper, as I would be spending $94 every month vs $128 every 3 months. She just rolled her eyes and said “Well I’m not going to keep arguing with you” and went to take him in the back.

I was so, so tempted to just walk out of there with the dog. Her attitude really rubbed me the wrong way. If it had been super busy, I could have understood her having a rushed attitude or something. But it wasn’t. I was not at all impressed with her professionalism.

Did I have a little snark when dealing with her? Yes, but only after I was met with attitude. I have no idea how good of a groom job she does. I really really hope that she is more professional with her grooming than with her people skills. She estimated 3-5 hours… so we’ll see. I’m considering just learning how to groom myself. It would save money and potential frustration!

I couldnt be bothered with that attitude. Learn to do your grooming yourself - particularly if you have a “self-groom” facility available.

(I love my groomer - she is the 3rd I have been to with my BC and she is by far the best dog and person person I have met in this industry.)

I WOULD have left with my dog. And I would have found a manager, told them they just lost $xxx and any future business if she were my groomer.

I would have been very nice about it, but if a manager does not know XYZ employee is behaving in a way that alienates customers, they cannot fix it.

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I couldnt be bothered with that attitude. Learn to do your grooming yourself - particularly if you have a “self-groom” facility available.

(I love my groomer - she is the 3rd I have been to with my BC and she is by far the best dog and person person I have met in this industry.)[/QUOTE]

There is a very nice self groom facility in the area that I have taken him to for “in-between” grooming sessions to try and make the expensive grooming sessions less frequent and to keep him looking good inbetween.

I think this summer will be ideal to try and learn how to groom him. I know how to brush/blow out the undercoat but it’s the trimming part that I am nervous to do because I don’t want to botch it up! I tend to be the type of person who will keep taking a little more off until it’s even until there is nothing left to take off. This summer though I plan to shave him so I guess I could experiment on the trimming/clipping before taking it all off :lol:

[QUOTE=threedogpack;6192909]I WOULD have left with my dog. And I would have found a manager, told them they just lost $xxx and any future business if she were my groomer.

I would have been very nice about it, but if a manager does not know XYZ employee is behaving in a way that alienates customers, they cannot fix it.[/QUOTE]

I think I might ask to speak with a manager when I pick him up tonight. At the very least I will let them know that her attitude was unprofessional and has made me rethink going there for grooming services.

Do any of you have a good source (online or otherwise) where I can get an idea of the ins and outs of clipping/trimming/grooming long-haired dogs with a thick undercoat? For an idea of what he looks like, this pic was taken a few days after his last grooming http://www.flickr.com/photos/43390118@N07/6980229833/.

That’s not fun. Certainly complain to the manager, then find yourself a different grooming shop. I don’t think you have to learn to groom your own dog unless you want to.

We offer grooming at our training/boarding/day care facility. We have one groomer. On the first visit she meets personally with the owner (and on subsequent visits if they wish to change how their dog is groomed) to find out exactly how they want their dog to look.

At our business you get the same groomer, every time, and she knows you and your dog.

I would find a shop like that, someplace established where the groomers have been there a while.

IMO the grooming, training and vet services at Petsmart are pretty poor. There is also a lot of turn over.

Ugh, that stinks! Is it really that expensive? Wow! :eek:

I would learn to groom yourself. If you’re not showing, you can afford a few bad trims before you figure it out. I do one of my dogs (the one we don’t show) and I pretty much scissor his ears, feathering and tail, and clipper the rest. He’s had a few bad clips, but the scissoring is actually not that hard. You just have to do a little at a time until you figure out what works and what doesn’t.

You’ll definitely want an undercoat rake; I just got one for my miniature horse and couldn’t believe how much better that worked than a shedding blade or furminator. I picked up a singled bladed one at Petsmart for about $8. They also have double-bladed which probably pull out more undercoat. Hopefully someone here will help out…but if you don’t want a full undercoat and use it regularly, you’ll have half the battle won!

On behalf of my industry I apologize…I would find a private groomer who is not under the additional pressure from a corporate memo to increase add on services. It is a service business and the customer should be treated well. Personally, I would have walked and explained to manager why.

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On behalf of my industry I apologize…I would find a private groomer who is not under the additional pressure from a corporate memo to increase add on services. It is a service business and the customer should be treated well. Personally, I would have walked and explained to manager why.[/QUOTE]

Yes! There are lots of good groomers out there!

I used to work at Petsmart grooming. Never in a million years would I ever leave my dog at that store or any other again…not after the things I saw.

Bad attitudes are just the tip of the iceberg. :frowning:

We went to pick him up and were not impressed. He doesn’t look terrible… but it was definitely not a great job. The lady last time did a nice job… this time not so much. We did talk to the manager about the groomer’s attitude and told them that we would be looking elsewhere for more professional services.

They did end up charging us $116 instead of $128 when we saw that the extra $$ was a “dematting” fee. The dog was NOT matted. We brush him regularly and I know for a fact he wasn’t matted… he just had a thickish undercoat in some places. The lady commented that she expected him to be worse than what he was by how thick it was so she agreed to take it off.

I wouldn’t mind learning to groom him on my own as it would save money… it’s not that big a deal if he has a couple of bad trim jobs. But I also don’t mind spending the money to have him professionally done if the groomer does a good job. After this experience we will def. not be going back to Petsmart. Not only did they have a bad attitude and do a poor groom job, it appeared that they did not take him out to use the bathroom in the 6 hours he ended up being there. As soon as they brought him out he went to lift his leg before we were out the door of the grooming salon… this dog does NOT mark or pee inside- he was really desperate to go.

I have a few local places that I am going to check out for next time.

I would never take my dog to Petsmart for grooming. Ask your vet, ask around, look online, but find somewhere else to take your pup.

I would have left. What on earth has happened to proper customer service?

(A word to the wise - you might want to call around the local shops to see if your favorite groomer ended up there!)

If you like, you can PM me what you normally had done and I can talk you through it…

I took my previous border collie ONE time to Petsmart to get his nails clipped (they were dark, so I was nervous about quicking him). They were incredibly rough with him. He was a very sensitive, timid dog and they were terrifying him. They had only cut two nails before I told them to stop and retrieved my poor traumatized dog and left. Never went back. I’ve done my own nail trims ever since.

I don’t do fancy showing with my border collie, so I don’t bother with any clipping or trimming. Baths, nail clips, regular brushing, and tooth brushing. All self serve stuff. :wink:

Unless you have a dog breed that requires specific clipping needs, I’d recommend just doing it yourself.

I can totally relate. After I adopted my wire fox terrier, I started taking him to what is supposedly THE best grooming place in my area. And really, he came out of there looking great. But there is this weird attitude there. It’s definitely not a snarky attitude, but a sort of condescending tell-them-what-they-want-to-hear attitude. I would try asking questions like, “What is the best grooming schedule for my dog’s coat?” and “And what should I be doing between appointments to maintain his coat?” They would basically tell me, “Do whatever you want! He’s your baby!” They call all of the dogs “babies.” Also, for terrier handstripping, it’s SUPER expensive.

All of these factors let me to search around and I found a really nice lady on Craigslist that used to be into showing and was willing to teach me how to groom mine. I bought a few brushes, stripping knife, a grooming table, some scissors, some clippers, and a few coat products. He looks fine. And, as with horses, I like going over every inch of him so I know if something is up.

Edit: One other thing, I bought a Dremel for his nails. He HATES having his nails handled at all, but tolerates the Dremel. I think this is mostly because I feed him pieces of bacon while I’m doing it…

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I wouldn’t mind learning to groom him on my own as it would save money… it’s not that big a deal if he has a couple of bad trim jobs. But I also don’t mind spending the money to have him professionally done if the groomer does a good job. After this experience we will def. not be going back to Petsmart. Not only did they have a bad attitude and do a poor groom job, it appeared that they did not take him out to use the bathroom in the 6 hours he ended up being there. As soon as they brought him out he went to lift his leg before we were out the door of the grooming salon… this dog does NOT mark or pee inside- he was really desperate to go.

I have a few local places that I am going to check out for next time.[/QUOTE]

There is a thread titled To Shave or Not to Shave where several of us are learning about thorough grooming (technique, products, etc).

This woman is in MD and I really enjoy her blog: http://petgroomingthegoodthebadthefurry.blogspot.com/. From reading her blog, I would not mind leaving my dog with her if I need pro grooming services (I do it myself).

Definitely look around and find a good one. They are out there, I promise. The lady I go to is the Mom of one of the girls I used to ride w/ at our old barn. :slight_smile:

I can do all the basics w/ my BC’s I’ve had as I used to show the breed. Besides the standard bath, blow out, nails… I can trim feet and ears. But they are mostly wash and wear dogs so not an issue.

But with my new spaniel mix rescue… it was just too much for me to handle. So off to the groomer I went.

Before: http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj562/lsm1212/ScarlettPose.jpg

After: http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj562/lsm1212/ScarlettGroom.jpg

As you can see, her hair was completely out of control. And that pic was taken 6 months before I took her in. It was a lot poofier!!! Never imagined she would grow this kind of coat as when I rescued her she looked like this:

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj562/lsm1212/Scarlett2.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj562/lsm1212/Scarlett1-1.jpg

After paying for a few trim jobs on my little yorkie/poodle cross I decided to give it try myself. I’ve been grooming my own dogs ever since. If your dog is well behaved it’s not that big a deal. I recently purchased a grooming table so I can groom my larger dogs more comfortably. I use a dremmel tool to trim their nails, I use scissors and clippers. I learned which clipper blades work best for the types of trims I do and I learned that you really want to pay for a quality pair of scissors.

My dogs are not show dogs, we’ve had a few questionable trim jobs but I’ve learned and gotten better over time. It’s only hair and it will grow back!

Took me a long time before I liked my grooming jobs, but customers were happy far sooner than I was. Hair grows. Just remember that scissors and clipper blades are knives with college educations.

What kind of dog? I learned to groom collies myself, by necessity after we moved here. No one knows how to groom a collie here.

My cocker went every three months, I did in between trims. They do know how to groom cockers. I would never use Petsmart (vet or groomer). There are plenty of small groomers around.

As far as undercoat, get yourself a good undercoat comb. It takes an hour or two, but saves a bundle of money. I always got most of the undercoat out for the collie when she was still going to the groomer…saved me $50 to $75.

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Definitely look around and find a good one. They are out there, I promise. The lady I go to is the Mom of one of the girls I used to ride w/ at our old barn. :slight_smile:

I can do all the basics w/ my BC’s I’ve had as I used to show the breed. Besides the standard bath, blow out, nails… I can trim feet and ears. But they are mostly wash and wear dogs so not an issue.

But with my new spaniel mix rescue… it was just too much for me to handle. So off to the groomer I went.

Before: http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj562/lsm1212/ScarlettPose.jpg

After: http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj562/lsm1212/ScarlettGroom.jpg

As you can see, her hair was completely out of control. And that pic was taken 6 months before I took her in. It was a lot poofier!!! Never imagined she would grow this kind of coat as when I rescued her she looked like this:

http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj562/lsm1212/Scarlett2.jpg
http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj562/lsm1212/Scarlett1-1.jpg[/QUOTE]

Pretty girl, she’d look great with a modified cocker cut. (I always did the field cut).