i'm way too anal - where's jp table 1?

[luvdogz72]

So I’m just learning the jumper tables - table II only really I guess. Gonna do just the small stuff but still ---- I love to understand it all.

so where IS table I - why would they have only II, III, IV?

WHY do they have so many permutations on this sport where you jump over stuff for 45 seconds? For example - what diff does it make if you stop for the jump-off or just keep going? (or am I even wrong on that?)

what site explains the tables in any easy-to-understand, general way.

When is table IV used? (optimum times)

[intheirons]

Not sure about Table I, but I know that on the local circuit in Colorado optimum times are used often in the Puddle Jumper (2’3"-2’6") classes.

[Calvincrowe]

I just looked the jumper tables up on the USEF website (the best source of accurate information regarding jumper tables). I don’t actually see a Table I, but Table II has several options that can be applied to different classes. Most often you will see a Table II, B round (first round clear, on to jump off after the bell) or 2, a–where all compete in the first round, then clear rounds return to jump off (like in a Grand Prix). There can also be a Power and speed round–Table II, C where you simply ride a clear round and go directly into the jump off, no stop and wait for the bell.

Optimum time is used in lower height classes to keep the yahoos from ripping around dangerously, basically.

Here’s a good site that explains it pretty clearly:
http://showringready.blogspot.com/2010/02/how-jumpers-are-scored.html

[comingback]

I believe Table 1 was for classes where rubs counted. Here’s a link to the 2010 rule book that describes that table https://www.usef.org/documents/rulebook/2010/17-jp.pdf. I don’t think those are held any longer, and they probably just didn’t renumber the other tables.

[Janet]

Table I was for “Touch” classes, where you got a penalty for touching a rail, even if you did not knock it down.

Since “Touch” classes aare no longer offered, they took Table I out of the Rule Book.

[Night_Flight]

I tried to explain the most common variations in a blog post a while back. Hopefully my explanations are a little bit easier to understand than what’s written in the rule book (though keep in mind I use EC names primarily):

http://showringready.blogspot.ca/2010/02/how-jumpers-are-scored.html

[Night_Flight]

@luvdogz72;8456084

WHY do they have so many permutations on this sport where you jump over stuff for 45 seconds? For example - what diff does it make if you stop for the jump-off or just keep going? (or am I even wrong on that?)

And as to why there are so many variations, it keeps things interesting and allows for different strategies and different strengths. Excuse the EC nomenclature in my explanation here:

Some horses do well with an immediate (i.e. stopping after your first round but staying in the ring to proceed to your jump-off) jump-off while others do best having some time to rest and regroup with a special warm-up specifically for the jump-off. Immediate jump-offs allow the show to run more quickly while the delayed jump-offs make for a more interesting event for the spectators, as well as making it easier for the riders to determine what they need to beat (therefore grand prix classes are always a delayed jump-off).

Power and speed courses are longer, so some horses will have an easier time with them than others. There’s a different strategy involved in transitioning mid-course from one type of ride to another. They also run really quickly when it comes to the show schedule.

Table A speed (no jump-off) is an entirely different strategy altogether because you have to go quickly without having ridden those jumps in advance with more generous turns, You also must keep the jumps up so you can’t go too crazy with the speed, but you also need to try to be the fastest clear.

Table C speed allows a different strategy altogether since you can make up for a rail by going quickly. This allows you to take more risks and you can go in with more confidence on a horse who isn’t quite as careful as some others.

[Peggy]

[QUOTE=comingback;8456250]
I believe Table 1 was for classes where rubs counted. Here’s a link to the 2010 rule book that describes that table https://www.usef.org/documents/rulebook/2010/17-jp.pdf. I don’t think those are held any longer, and they probably just didn’t renumber the other tables.[/QUOTE]Can you imagine the chaos that would have ensued if they’d renumbered?:eek: