Immunocidin injections for sarcoid treatment?

Has anyone used this in horses? I have a mare with a tumor on her upper inner back leg, it is rubbing and not cracked and bleeding so its time for treatment.

The vet says surgery could result in lasting damage and perhaps affect her soundness depending on how involved it is. Surgery just does not seem like a good option on many levels as it seems it an really set things off and doesn’t necessarily get rid of the problem except in the short term.

Is that the green stuff? aka Regressin? Bacterial cell wall suspension I seem to remember. If so, I’ve had it injected into sarcoids with great success. Messy, pus comes spewing out as the immune system kicks into high gear, and attacks the sarcoid. And it all healed up just fine.

Not sure if you’re looking for recommendations on other treatments as well, but if so, you might try Balanced Eco Solutions. My horse had a blueberry sized sarcoid on his ear, which my vet was hesitant to freeze or surgically remove due to the risk of a malformation in the shape of his ear. I was skeptical, as the ingredients don’t seem like anything special (honey, cinnamon, essential oils), but within 2 month of treatment, the sarcoid fell off. My horse never got ear shy and it’s healing well. I’d be happy to share pictures if you’re interested.

Have you thought about imiquimod? It worked incredibly well on my guy. The area looks awful; raw and swollen, after you use the imiquamod. However, in a few weeks, the sarcoid was gone and there was no scar. It cost me $141 at Target. The vet can call in the prescription.

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Have you thought about imiquimod? It worked incredibly well on my guy. The area looks awful; raw and swollen, after you use the imiquamod. However, in a few weeks, the sarcoid was gone and there was no scar. It cost me $141 at Target. The vet can call in the prescription.[/QUOTE]

No in 37 years of horse ownership I’ve never had a horse with sarcoids that required treatment. The initial recommendation was for surgery but I know surgery can set them off worse and the vet said she may end up with soundness issues as a result of surgery. My mare is with a potential buyer who’s a great match for her she really loves her I know of the vet practice and they’re very good so I have confidence but I’m reluctant to approve surgery on what might end up resulting in lameness. It would probably be mechanical lameness and she would still be usable as a pleasure horse but obviously her dressage career would be over. I’ve just never heard of this vaccination as I think it’s relatively new. If she really needs surgery I have no problem providing it and I have no problem providing her a home for life I just hate to unnecessarily create a problem.

Dr Reckeweg R17 - 15 drops in about 2-3 mls of water 3 x a day shot down her throat

Totally non invasive, no side effects, no taste and it has worked very well on sarcoids in the past

This was a colt I bred. He was sold in utero to Germany. He developed this teeny little growth in his ear and his new owner wanted to wait until he got to Germany to treat him. The growth kept growing and growing until it got to this size and then the Federal vet wouldn’t sign the export health papers because of it, so he couldn’t leave Canada. My vet looked at it several times and they wanted to flip his ear inside out and cut it off or cauterize it - all very invasive procedures and expensive as well

Dr Reckeweg’s was suggested and he was treated with it - very inexpensive and really nothing to lose and these pictures are the result

http://www.gestuet-falkenhorst.com/MochiSarcoid.html

We have used it on people, dogs, other horses with terrific success - cant say enough great things about the product. The colt is now 5 or 6 years old and it never came back so the product kicked butt in getting rid of it initially and then boosted the immune system sufficiently to prevent him from getting it back again

Well worth looking into - available at most health food stores or you can easily and quickly buy it on line

Good luck! :slight_smile:

We tried it with my mate. It worked for a few months, but then it came back with a vengeance! Lol it’s worth a shot though as its relatively inexpensive.

We used Cisplatin on the one sarcoid I’ve ever dealt with. It worked great, no return of sarcoid and it’s been about 17 years.

I also have used xterra with success on a sarcoid that wasn’t really suited for surgery (the other sarcoids I have had removed surgically; one in the girth area that was very involved–we also did cisplatin with that one as well. The other was on a leg…surgically removed it, and it was fine.)

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Have you thought about imiquimod? It worked incredibly well on my guy. The area looks awful; raw and swollen, after you use the imiquamod. However, in a few weeks, the sarcoid was gone and there was no scar. It cost me $141 at Target. The vet can call in the prescription.[/QUOTE]

This is a large one, crusty and was weeping for a few weeks and has dried up a bit on the outside but also she has a grapefruit sized lump under her skin so it is hard to tell how deep or involved and where else she may have it inside. It sucks. She has had a small, smooth bump for years with no change, I send her off and it explodes. It makes me wonder what sets them off…

I have not had it biopsied. I’m afraid to touch the thing and cause it to spread further hence have held off on surgery for that reason as well. Even if the shots could shrink it and then if we thought it was necessary we could have the remainder surgically removed.

It just feels like there is no way to win here.

My last mare had a tumor of some sort in her mouth and had to be put down at 11.

WFF!!!

A follow up for anyone who might come across this thread later while searching for their horse - in my case the Immunocidin had zero effect. The drug companies literature states 73% had full regression and 27% had partial. Ummm…yeah, well whatever!

So surgery was yesterday, followed by injections of 5 fluro- uracil which will be repeated in 4 weeks. Three weeks of stall rest while the incision heals (touchy area). The tumor was about 3" across, with an 8" diameter.

Fingers crossed.

Thanks for the follow up. Sorry it has been so complicated for you and your horse.

bumping this up, how is the horse doing?

It was a pain to manage the incision. Despite following instructions to a T, stall rest she still popped her stitches and had a mess. It was ugly but it actually healed up quite nicely and she is fine now and being very successfully shown by a teenager. I sold her but get regular updates on my FB page with her show wins. :slight_smile:

yay! that is good to hear! I am wrestling with a sarcoid on the front of a hind cannon right now and its being super difficult.