[QUOTE=Laurierace;8124673]
I vote fat but think it is a good idea to get her checked just in case. Oftentimes you can make the foal move by patting her belly in front of their flank.[/QUOTE]
I really hope you are right! I would much rather her just be really fat than pregnant, cushings, or granulosa cell tumor.
This mare I owned for a brief time also expressed fluid on a yearly basis.
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My not-so-pregnant mare
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[QUOTE=starrunner;8124823]
This mare I owned for a brief time also expressed fluid on a yearly basis.
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My not-so-pregnant mare
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Cute horses! Did the first one gain weight/ belly during that same time when you could express the fluid?
Yes, but I always attributed it to the fact the horses were just going out on pasture. Spring pasture makes them explode pretty quickly, even in muzzles!
[QUOTE=starrunner;8125078]
Yes, but I always attributed it to the fact the horses were just going out on pasture. Spring pasture makes them explode pretty quickly, even in muzzles![/QUOTE]
It makes sense! That is what I have been attributing this all too. Hoping to get things sorted out with the trailer situation today!
[QUOTE=Mysterymare;8125159]
It makes sense! That is what I have been attributing this all too. Hoping to get things sorted out with the trailer situation today![/QUOTE]
Can you take her sooner? I don’t think I can wait 2 weeks…
[QUOTE=candyappy;8125511]
Can you take her sooner? I don’t think I can wait 2 weeks…[/QUOTE]
Lol you think YOU can’t wait, I’m stressing so hard over here! I really wish I could but I have final exams starting this week and all through next week. Also she lives 45 minutes from the school/ hospital so it is going to be an all day event. She seems very stable in mentation and physical condition (ie. Normal for her) so j can justify moving it up and risking failing my finals (I don’t want to repeat 1st year of vet shool!)
I may have missed something, but why can’t a basic physical, rectal, pregnancy check, blood draw possible ultrasound if you want to get ffffahhhnnnccsssayyy be done on farm sooner than taking her to the horsepital?
[QUOTE=nu2u;8125661]
I may have missed something, but why can’t a basic physical, rectal, pregnancy check, blood draw possible ultrasound if you want to get ffffahhhnnnccsssayyy be done on farm sooner than taking her to the horsepital?[/QUOTE]
Because I get a 30% discount and access to the most amazing theriogenoloist (and other specialists) at the vet teaching hospital at my school. This means I could get more accurate interpretations of results, and get more tests for my money, as well as have her see multiple specialists in the same day. I also need their teeth floated and all of their vaccs and some other stuff. Being a tight wallet vet student, I’ll take any break I can get especially if it means more superior care. This is especially important to me because if this is something that will require medication or future management then I would like to conserve my funds for that. Just trying to be money wise and get te most and best for my kids 
Good Luck on your finals!! I can’t wait to find out about your girl!
[QUOTE=Mysterymare;8125885]
Because I get a 30% discount and access to the most amazing theriogenoloist (and other specialists) at the vet teaching hospital at my school. This means I could get more accurate interpretations of results, and get more tests for my money, as well as have her see multiple specialists in the same day. I also need their teeth floated and all of their vaccs and some other stuff. Being a tight wallet vet student, I’ll take any break I can get especially if it means more superior care. This is especially important to me because if this is something that will require medication or future management then I would like to conserve my funds for that. Just trying to be money wise and get te most and best for my kids :)[/QUOTE]
Doesn’t your vet school have an ambulatory service? It doesn’t require a theriogenologist to diagnose a pregnancy (or float teeth or vaccinate).
[QUOTE=arapaloosa_lady;8127685]
Doesn’t your vet school have an ambulatory service? It doesn’t require a theriogenologist to diagnose a pregnancy (or float teeth or vaccinate).[/QUOTE]
They absolutely do not… I don’t know of any vet school that does… They would not be able to maintain staff large enough to have a mobile service on top of everyone needed at the hospital…
Also did you not read my post at all? Some of this is about money. 30% off is a HUGE discount on the bill that I am going to rack up. The fact that this is a weird case where she is not showing all of the signs of cushings and is having confusing other symptoms and never contacted a stallion to my knowledge, that DOES warrant a theriogenoloist and possibly an internal medicine specialist. If surgery is warranted she will be right there to have tha done immediately. This is NOT a typical case. I won’t have judgement passed on my decision either. I know the doctors at the VTH. I don’t know anyone else as I just moved here so I can’t know the quality of anyone else’s services. Plus, if I take them to the VTH I get to be involved with all of the procedures and help carry them out which is important because I will be vetting my own horses in a few years. ALSO I am super busy with finals right now as stated before, so even f the thousands of reasons were not valid, I am too busy for the luxury of knowing right now. Like I said in my last post, if she was acting clinically sick or showing any decrease in mentation, I would call someone out Immediately.
I had a mare that bagged up and got a massive belly on spring grass. She was exposed to a stallion so the first time it happened I freaked and had the vet out several times to verify no foal.
Then when I sold her I got a phone call the following spring demanding to know why I sold them a pregnant horse (um, oops?). She was even insisting that the only gelding on the property wasn’t gelded properly (he also never shared a pasture with her). I promised her the mare wasn’t pregnant and assured her I would reimburse her vet bills and buy the foal if she was. I never heard from her again so I’m assuming no virgin birth…
[QUOTE=Jumper_girl221;8127902]
I had a mare that bagged up and got a massive belly on spring grass. She was exposed to a stallion so the first time it happened I freaked and had the vet out several times to verify no foal.
Then when I sold her I got a phone call the following spring demanding to know why I sold them a pregnant horse (um, oops?). She was even insisting that the only gelding on the property wasn’t gelded properly (he also never shared a pasture with her). I promised her the mare wasn’t pregnant and assured her I would reimburse her vet bills and buy the foal if she was. I never heard from her again so I’m assuming no virgin birth…[/QUOTE]
LOL!! That is too funny! That is just the weirdest thing. Sounds like maybe some mares just bloat up more than others on lush grasses. Your story calms me down a bit
This is not all that unusual. There are some mares experience mammary gland development and milk production every spring even in the absence of pregnancy. Some types of clover have compounds that have estrogenic activity. That, along with increasing prolactin due to increasing sunlight, often stimulates mammary development and lactation. It can also occur in heifers, although it appears to be more rare in heifers than in horses.
[QUOTE=Skip’s Rider;8128016]
This is not all that unusual. There are some mares experience mammary gland development and milk production every spring even in the absence of pregnancy. Some types of clover have compounds that have estrogenic activity. That, along with increasing prolactin due to increasing sunlight, often stimulates mammary development and lactation. It can also occur in heifers, although it appears to be more rare in heifers than in horses.[/QUOTE]
Yes I know. It’s not the lactation I’m most worried about. When it was just that, about a month ago, I wasn’t worried. My issue is with how her stomach keeps getting bigger in a very low pendulous fashion (normal big round belly would have been fine because that is pretty typical for her at times). Her shape is just different this year from what is typically normal for her.
[QUOTE=Mysterymare;8127954]
LOL!! That is too funny! That is just the weirdest thing. Sounds like maybe some mares just bloat up more than others on lush grasses. Your story calms me down a bit[/QUOTE]
This was when I bought her in February She was a rehab project…came from a barrel racing horse trader, terrible feet and on the thin side
Then in early April we started getting the belly
then by fall she looked normal.
I’ve no idea if she ever had a foal before or not, I got her in 2009 so she was 8, but no registered foals in the AQHA data base.
She was a phenomenal jumper for a lil 13.3 hand 98% foundation QH lol, but was a bit sensitive, esp in her face (yay for people hanging off the mouth). An older fox hunter ended up buying her, the mare was a pretty freaky jumper and she was looking for something smaller to do 3rd flight, maybe 2nd.
[QUOTE=Mysterymare;8127852]
They absolutely do not… I don’t know of any vet school that does… They would not be able to maintain staff large enough to have a mobile service on top of everyone needed at the hospital… [/QUOTE]
My school does have an ambulatory service, as does the vet school at the university where I did my undergrad.
Regardless, I can totally sympathize with wanting the discount, wanting care you trust, and being swamped with finals. I don’t see any reason that this issue can’t wait a couple of weeks, especially since you’re keeping a close eye on it. And the great part about being a vet student is that you have access to lots of people who are probably happy to discuss these kinds of things with you and will tell you if they think it needs to be seen sooner.
[QUOTE=cheerio280;8128766]
My school does have an ambulatory service, as does the vet school at the university where I did my undergrad.
Regardless, I can totally sympathize with wanting the discount, wanting care you trust, and being swamped with finals. I don’t see any reason that this issue can’t wait a couple of weeks, especially since you’re keeping a close eye on it. And the great part about being a vet student is that you have access to lots of people who are probably happy to discuss these kinds of things with you and will tell you if they think it needs to be seen sooner.[/QUOTE]
That’s teally cool that your school has one! Are you in a more populated area? I’m in a very rural school. I think it would be hard for us here.
Yeah that’s exactly it. I know when to call someone if things get to a point where it’s an emergency. I definitely have lots of benefits as a vet student.
[QUOTE=Mysterymare;8127852]
They absolutely do not… I don’t know of any vet school that does… They would not be able to maintain staff large enough to have a mobile service on top of everyone needed at the hospital…
Also did you not read my post at all? Some of this is about money. 30% off is a HUGE discount on the bill that I am going to rack up. The fact that this is a weird case where she is not showing all of the signs of cushings and is having confusing other symptoms and never contacted a stallion to my knowledge, that DOES warrant a theriogenoloist and possibly an internal medicine specialist. If surgery is warranted she will be right there to have tha done immediately. This is NOT a typical case. I won’t have judgement passed on my decision either. I know the doctors at the VTH. I don’t know anyone else as I just moved here so I can’t know the quality of anyone else’s services. Plus, if I take them to the VTH I get to be involved with all of the procedures and help carry them out which is important because I will be vetting my own horses in a few years. ALSO I am super busy with finals right now as stated before, so even f the thousands of reasons were not valid, I am too busy for the luxury of knowing right now. Like I said in my last post, if she was acting clinically sick or showing any decrease in mentation, I would call someone out Immediately.[/QUOTE]
Holy overreaction!
I know of at least 4 vet schools that have an ambulatory service… why would you think that’s a difficult undertaking? Doing farm calls doesn’t take much more than a good vet & a stocked truck. And it’s good for students to see general ambulatory practice.
You’re welcome to do whatever you’d like with your horse. It’s your horse. It doesn’t take a specialist to know the basic work-up for the horse you described, but if you like your chosen specialist, go to your vet :lol:. No need to flip out at me for suggesting a reasonable alternative that doesn’t require you to figure out trailer logistics & is budget-friendly.
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